Nabila Makram—the only Coptic Christian currently serving as a minister in the Egyptian government—may have unwittingly exposed how she reached that position during a televised interview.
In the interview, she told the story of a young Egyptian girl named Kariman. Apparently her Muslim mother divorced her father and fled to Italy with an Italian man, taking the girl with her when she was 5-years-old. The man later left the mother, who took Kariman to a convent in Rome and left her in the care of the nuns before reportedly committing suicide.
Four years later, when Kariman was nine, her Muslim grandfather began demanding that the girl be returned to him in Egypt. So Nabila Makram, the Coptic minister, played an “important role,” as she boasted in the interview.
After explaining how difficult it was to extradite the girl from Italy, as Kariman did not want to leave the convent where she was happily living with the sisters, Makram went on to say that “Kariman was flown [to Egypt] wearing a cross, because of course she had grown in a convent—actually, she was raised at the hands of nuns, even though she was a Muslim.”
As a result, Makram—the Christian—“explained to the girl that, sure, faith is in the heart, but you need to take off the cross for you’re returning to your grandfather, to a new life, or rather, your old life.”
The young girl reluctantly complied even though, as Makram admitted, she was immensely upset—so much so that Makram feared she’d take her life in the airplane on the way to Cairo and arranged for an Egypt Air airline attendant to accompany her and keep watch over her during the flight.
Thus Nabila Makram sheds light as to how she, a Coptic Christian, sees her role as a minister in the Egyptian government: to happily behave as one of the dhimmis, third class non-Muslim citizens who know their place. Instead of letting this young girl remain in safety with the Italian sisters who cared for her, she extradited the girl back to her grandfather—who only seemed to show interest in the girl when she reached the age of nine, when girls can marry based on Muhammad’s precedent with Aisha—all while forcing the girl to cast aside the crucifix.
Such is the Islamic Hate for the Christian Cross.
Nabila Makram appears to be the sort of Copt welcome to positions of authority in Egypt: a sort of “Christian” that lures if not forces a child from a safe and positive environment in order to satisfy a fanatic Muslim grandfather who is more interested in preserving the girl’s Islamic religion than her happiness or wellbeing—certainly not her Christianity.
toiledepenelope says
I can relate to this story. I am a Christian female who was married to a secular Turkish Muslim. A few years ago, I gave my husband a beautiful Christian medal to wear around his neck, as a symbol of love and of protection. The chain was long enough so that the medal could be hidden under clothing, so as to not incite any problems in today’s Islamist Turkey. But, my husband’s aunt ( a female MD who practiced in the USA for 40 years) caught sight of the medal, ripped it off of his neck, and threw it in the garbage, cursing like a lunatic while she committed the gross act of intolerance. That’s my story. No doubt, many others have their own stories.
christianblood says
@ toiledepenelope
Dear “toiledepenelope” it is really sad to hear your story. That aunty had no right to interfere with the beautiful gift that you gave to your husband. I hope your husband becomes independent and that he becomes a Christian. May God keep you safe from all dangers in your surroundings!
toiledepenelope says
Many thanks. I am safe. But, sadly, my husband put his Turkish family first. He remained in Turkey, but I left.
christianblood says
Dear “toiledepenelope” thank God you are safe! It is the nature of muslim men to put their extended family priority above their wives. And even the so called “secular muslims” still follow such islamic culture and social norms. I am just wondering if there were kids in the marriage? Again, may God keep you safe and provide you all your needs!
AJ - Raalte says
I wonder how that little girl is doing now.
Elisheva says
Most of us are brainwashed to believe our religion is the only and best religion. If are parents are observant they perform the brainwashing. They send us to schools that set us on a biased course. It has been going on for 1000’s of years. The same with Liberalism.
George Farahat says
In my opinion, Nabila Makram probably committed a heinous act and she certainly acted against the request of this child to remain in the Christian environment in the Vatican. The question should be raised to both the Egyptian President and to Pope Francis: On what ground was this child forced back to Egypt and given to her Muslim father?
Chaher Soliman says
There are a few holes in Raymond Ibrahim’s account:
* The Italian man who took Kariman would presumably be a Christian as he left the 5-yr old little girl to the nuns. It would be relevant to the story to know the circumstances that led to his suicide.
* When did he commit suicide?
* Did that Muslim mother surely know about the drop off to the convent?
* Why Karima’s mother didn’t keep her and then let the Italian man take her?
* Was the Italian guy protecting the mother and Karima while she was with the nuns at the convent, then somehow blew his “cover” that led to suicide?
* How Karima’s grandfather learned of her whereabouts, after four years?
* Where are the Karima’s father and mother (the Muslim mother divorced the father; isn’t it usually the other way around in these parts of the world?)
It seems clear to me that we don’t have all the facts of the story.
As for Nabila Makram, she had to save face, her face – it’s politics. Makram may well have been unchristian in handling this affaire but it’s quite possible that she wants to save her own skin.
United in prayers.
Momminator says
Read again. Karima’s MOTHER committed suicide after leaving her in the convent. The Italian is long gone.
Chaher Soliman says
Same quote as before.
christianblood says
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Chaher Soliman says
Hate the sin, LOVE the sinners. (M. Gandhi)