Among those familiar with the true teachings of Islam, it is well known that the life — or as articulated in Arabic, the “blood” — of an infidel, that is, a non-Muslim, is not equal to the life/blood of a Muslim. Few know, however, that among some of Islam’s respected hadith collections, the blood of a non-Muslim is no better than the blood of a dog.
(Dog-lovers should bear in mind that, in Islam, to be compared to a dog is about the worst and most degrading insult.)
Brother Rashid (a former Muslim turned Christian) recently discussed this during his Arabic-language show, Su’al Jari’ (“Daring Question,” which I recently appeared on to discuss my book, Crucified Again).
According to a hadith recorded among other places in Sunan Ahmed (Hanbali jurisprudence) and Sunan al-Bayhaqi (Shafi’i jurisprudence), during the course of a discussion about non-Muslims, Caliph Omar al-Khattab — one of Sunni Islam’s “four righteous caliphs” — declared “They are heathens, and the blood of one of them is [like] the blood of a dog.”
Islam teaches no such thing, and you – sir – are a liar.
You should know more about your Islam. Here is the link to prove what the writer mentioned:
http://library.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=58&ID=600&idfrom=1261&idto=1298&bookid=58&startno=19
Stop the taqiyya.
You left the whole moral from the story on how to be fair to
people you have a treaty with, even if it was those who hurt you the most, and
picked up on what Omar Bin Alkhatab said, 2 words out of the whole thing!
The Mushrikeen he was talking about are the Idol worshipers
in Arabia during their time, who killed tortured and evicted the Muslims from their
homes in Mekkah, then allied with many Arab tribes Jews etc gathered armies and
went to kill the Muslims in Madenah (the new home town after being evicted from
Mekkah) so would you be happy with people who do this to you and your family??
Again, the abrogation principle – which annuls 40% of the Qu’rân, especially what’s written earlier when it come into conflict with what is written later – destroys so very much of what you Moslems like to quote as part of your deception strategy and tactics!!!
I pray, I truly pray that may the One all Mighty cures your
heart from this hatred for I do not hate you nor wish anything bad to happen to
you, I pray that you will find the true guidance in this life and submit to the
One who has created you.
If you are talking about nasikh there is a whole Fiqih about
that, that will take us hours to discuses, I will give you an example how intoxicants
was forbidden:
The verses that forbid intoxicants where revealed as follows:
Quran 16 Annahl. And from
the fruits of the palm trees and grapevines you take intoxicant and good
provision. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who reason. (67)
Not forbidden yet eating
and selling fruits have great benefit for you, fermenting and drinking them will
get you drunk! use your reason to decide.
Quran 2 Albaqarah. They ask
you about intoxicants and gambling. Say,
“In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is
greater than their benefit.”
The benefit of some wins in gambling and money earned from
selling intoxicants, there is a sin in it that was an early sign that it will
be forbidden you choose for yourself.
Quran 4 Annisa. O you who
have believed, do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated until you know
what you are saying
Then the last verse about
the topic was reviled in Madenah:
Quran 5 Almaidah. O you who
have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone alters [to
other than Allah], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of
Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful. (90)Satan only wants to cause between you animosity
and hatred through intoxicants and gambling and to avert you from the
remembrance of Allah and from prayer. So will you not desist? (91)
And this was the verse that
was reviled that superseded all the previous ones for their time, and these
verses where revealed throughout many years, every stage as faith grow more in
the hearts of the believers, as one of the companions of prophet Mohammad peace
and blessings be upon him said “if this verse was reviled in Mecca [in the
first years of Islam] no one would have entered Islam”. It superseded the other
verses at their time and today we have intoxicants forbidden but all the early
verses remained in the Quran to teach us patients when we are conveying the
message of Islam help those alcoholics or drug addicts to quiet according to
these small steps taking their situation in to consideration.
Bottom line is please educate yourself in Islam before
you attack it.
And this was the verse that
was reviled that superseded all the previous ones for their time, and these
verses where revealed throughout many years, every stage as faith grow more in
the hearts of the believers, as one of the companions of prophet Mohammad peace
and blessings be upon him said “if this verse was reviled in Mecca [in the
first years of Islam] no one would have entered Islam”. It superseded the other
verses at their time and today we have intoxicants forbidden but all the early
verses remained in the Quran to teach us patients when we are conveying the
message of Islam help those alcoholics or drug addicts to quiet according to
these small steps taking their situation in to consideration.
Bottom line is please educate yourself in Islam before
you attack it.
There are MANY, MANY, MANY other reasons to hate Islam!!!!
Quite apart from its ABYSMAL track-record of oppression and atrocities committed against non-Moslems over the course of 1,400 years – including GENOCIDE and/or corruption to the Islamic cult of peoples like the Arabian Jews, Egyptian Copts, Indonesian + Malaysian + Indian Buddhists and Hindus, Serbian + Albanian + Armenian + Bulgarian + Romanian + Croatian + Moldovan + Hungarian + Polish + Austrian + Ukrainian and Russian Christians (both Catholic and Orthodox, even Protestants too!!!) – I also bear in mind Islam’s blanket prohibition against art, music, science and even Western medicine!!!!
You Moslems hate and destroy musical instruments, discourage and even forbid orchestras (even in partially-Westernised Turkey ensembles have a hard time coping with your Islamic-fundamentalists), choirs, chamber-groups, vocal and instrumental soloists!!! You forbid vaccinations and proper scientific treatments against readily-preventable diseases like smallpox, polio, tuberculosis, Ebola-fever and other such infections which – thanks to your “clerics” and other people – are becoming resistant to our medicines and threatening to push the whole world back to pre-historic times!!! You destroyed the frescoes, mosaics, sculptures and other art-objects (which you brand as “idols”!!) like the Bamiyan Buddhas as well as Hagia Sophia Cathedral in Constantinople (Istanbul)!!!
Also, you take literally the ideas of “honour-killing”, killing “apostates”, &c. DON’T YOU SEE just how Satanically EVIL ALL of these acts, laws, prohibitions and all else are – all in the name of and by the commands of Islam and your NIGHTMARE of a “prophet”????Need I go on??
Peace
Why don’t you instead think about what I’ve written above??? If God Didn’t want us to enjoy art, music, science, literature and medicine: WHY Did He Give us such capacities for them??
Think carefully about it – and see how much Christians take joyful pleasure from these things!!! Why must you Moslems seek to destroy these good things and their tools (musical instruments, sculptures, paintings, great buildings, &c.)?? Islam is really a cult that FORBIDS joy in healthy, happy things: you instead rejoice in WAR (as Mohammed did!!), killing and torturing others, especially those who can’t defend themselves.
There’s my challenge to you…
No one is forcing u not to enjoy any thing do what you want and we do what we want and in sha Allah we meet on the day of judgment and see who was right and who was in error
Peace for now
First, IF you Moslems were NOT out to force Islam down the throats of everybody else (which you are!!!), then I would relax!
It’s the terrible fact that you as a people want to destroy all other beliefs, thoughts, cultures, &c. WORLDWIDE (as you did with Buddhism in Afghanistan and are doing in Malaysia and Indonesia – as you’re doing with Christianity in Turkey, North and Central Africa, Albania and the Middle East – as you always are pledged to do to the Jews wherever you find them!! – as you’re doing in the colonies you’re setting up in the West!!!) that gets my anger (as well as that of many other people!!) going!!!!
Second: when we come to the Last Judgement, we’ll be far too worried with our own fates and troubles to be able to care or even think of others!!!
Islam entered Indonesia and south east Asia with out war,
learn about our history, Arab traders giving people the wisdom and the good
advice on Islam. If you think that people should worship Idols then I don’t
think you are even a Christian or even following any monotheistic faiths, one
thing all prophets came to do on this earth is to guide people to the strait
path from the darknesses to the light, refrain from worshiping the created and
worship the Creator.
Missionaries are the ones who forced their faith down the
throats of people in Africa the natives in Australia new Zeeland the Americas and
every where they went.
Again educate your self, and no one is forcing you to become
a Muslim yet if you do become, you are doing good for yourself and yourself
only, and if you don’t then you have done the harm to your own self.
Quran Alkafirun (non believers)
Say, “O disbelievers, (1)I do not worship what you worship. (2)Nor are you worshippers of what I worship. (3)Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship. (4)Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship. (5)For you is your religion, and for me is my
religion.” (6)
This is Islam
Peace
Mehdi Hasan, one of the UK’s favourite muslim media personalities, seems to agree:
“Once we lose the moral high-ground we are no different from the rest, of the non-Muslims; from the rest of those human beings who live their lives as animals, bending any rule to fulfil any desire.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4hpfqFt-0Q
The liars and the terrorists are the Muslim Brotherhood and those that support them! So do you support them? Oh you have the terrorist rabaa hand? right?
Jewish Teaching: Non-Jews are to be killed: 2 Chronicles 15:12-13: “And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.” Mr. Ibrahim should know better than to pick and choose texts to condone prejudice.
Stop this old Islamic tactic: throwing dust in the eyes. You disregard what the writer mentioned & start a distracting subject. You still can not deny that Islam teaches that: Non-Muslims Equal to Dogs
Islam does not teach that, your righter wants you to believe
that, there is a distinction between the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and the non believers
who chose not to believe, and did no hard to Muslims, and those who fight plot
and spread hatred towards Islam through lies and deception like your writer.
Quran 109 Say, “O disbelievers, (1)I do not worship what you worship. (2)Nor are you worshippers of what I worship. (3)Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship. (4)Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship. (5)For you is your religion, and for me is my
religion.” (6)
http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.sahih/109:1
Quran 3:115 They are not [all] the same; among the People of the Scripture is
a community standing [in obedience], reciting the verses of Allah during
periods of the night and prostrating [in prayer]. (113)They believe in Allah and the Last Day, and they
enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and hasten to good deeds. And
those are among the righteous. (114)And whatever good they do – never will it be
removed from them. And Allah is Knowing of the righteous. (115)
http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.sahih/3:110
Islam is an amazing faith,
may the one all mighty guide us all to the right path
Among the chapters that end up abrogated by later, FAR more bloodthirsty and uncompromisingly-cruel chapters (e.g., 8, 9) are precisely higher-numbered Surat like 109 and 114.
Could you please enlighten us with your findings and past
these verses, maybe I can explain them to you and clear any misconception?
For starters, I’ll refer you to Sura 9, which is both the latest-written AND also the bloodthirstiest chapter of the entire Qu’rân – which abrogates so very, very much that’s written earlier; particularly when its commands are open-ended (unlimited and never to be stopped). Contrast that with even the Biblical Old Testament, whose equivalent commands of violent actions are limited to Ancient Israel and specific targets in both time and place.
It is forbidden to drink blood in Islam, Muslims can’t be thirsty
for blood I think you are confusing Islam with something else.
This is what Islam teaches
Quran 8 Al-Mumtahina Perhaps Allah will put, between you and those to whom you have been enemies among them, affection. And Allah is competent, and Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (7)Allah does not forbid you from those who do not
fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes – from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. (8)Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion –
[forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers. (9)
You know what you are saying? you are saying that if the Bible says so so what is wrong with the Qur’an saying to let us say kill the polytheists! Right? But you know what? Your so called Allah says that the Bible is a corrupted book right? So you tell me why do you quote a corrupted book to prove a point?
you seem to believe in it and these are the teachings that you
follow, not us!
REALLY?? Truly, you’re following the teachings of SATAN himself, one of whose MANY names happens to be “allah” – and who’s spoken of in the Qu’rân as the GREATEST DECEIVER OF ALL (Chapter 3:54, 8:30, 15:39)!!!
The Christian God NEVER Himself deceives ANYBODY; furthermore, He Does NOT harden hearts against Him until those opposing Him have done so first themselves!!!
If you read a bible in Arabic you will find the name Allah
there for God! If you really know any thing about Islam is that we are told
over and over again never to follow Satan’s footsteps don’t obey him he is our
enemy etc etc
The verses you are talking about are as follows for everyone
to know how YOU deceive people:
Quran 3 Aal Imran. Our
Lord, we have believed in what You revealed and have followed the messenger JESUS,
so register us among the witnesses [to truth].” (53)And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the
best of planners. (54)[Mention] when Allah said, “O Jesus, indeed I
will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve
and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those
who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I
will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ. (55)And as for those who disbelieved, I will punish
them with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will
have no helpers.” (56)But as for those who believed and did righteous
deeds, He will give them in full their rewards, and Allah does not like the
wrongdoers. (57)
Quran 8 Alanfal. And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted
against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they
plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners. (30)
If you do not believe that
every thing that happens on this earth is from the great wisdom on the One all
Mighty then there is something very wrong with your believe. And this was describing
the time when the pagans of the Arabs were on their way to kill the Muslims in
Madeenah after years of brutal torture.
Quran 15 Alhijr. [Allah] said, O Iblees, what is [the matter] with you that you are
not with those who prostrate?” (32)He said, “Never would I prostrate to a human
whom You created out of clay from an altered black mud.” (33)[Allah] said, “Then get out of it, for
indeed, you are expelled. (34)And indeed, upon you is the curse until the Day
of Recompense.” (35)He said, “My Lord, then reprieve me until
the Day they are resurrected.” (36)[Allah] said, “So indeed, you are of those
reprieved (37)Until the Day of the time well-known.” (38)[Iblees] said, “My Lord, because You have put me in error, I will surely make
[disobedience] attractive to them on earth, and I will mislead them all (39)Except, among them, Your chosen servants.” (40)[Allah] said, “This is a path [of return] to
Me [that is] straight. (41)Indeed, My servants – no
authority will you have over them, except those who follow you of the
deviators.
(42)
Iblees
is Satan, and the error he is talking about is him being asked to prostrate to
Adam. Not sure if you agree with Satan on this.
And FYI
there is only ONE God who has created you me and every thing in the universe,
the Jewish Christian and Muslim God is ONE.
NO, “allah” is SATAN: God NEVER wanted Mankind to destroy or abuse dogs, pigs, apes or women!!! He Made it all indeed – and saw that it was VERY GOOD!!! By hating them and maltreating them, you Moslems are in essence DENYING God’s Omni-potency, His Perfection and His Creation!!! That in other words means that you deny God and therefore are on the side of His Enemy, Satan!!! Only Satan truly HATES what God Has Made…
He NEVER (aside from Abraham and the Jewish males – as witness to a special people He Had Selected for His Purposes) Would Have us mutilate ourselves or others via female-genital mutilation (or male circumcision – with Gentiles, it’s not at all called for)!!! He Does NOT Call for us to flagellate ourselves!!!
Our God furthermore does NOT Intentionally EVER Deceive people (contrary to Qu’rân 3:54, which speaks of “allah” as the “greatest SCHEMER of all” – i.e., he has to scheme when Our God, while KNOWING US for who we are, does not need to play tricks with us)!!! Even if He Asks impossible things (e.g., Abraham being told to sacrifice Isaac) or Tests us, He WILL Provide a way out – as He Did with Abraham, King David and MANY other people!!! Even Satan and his demons (fallen angels) have to submit to Him if He So Desires. Think of the Egyptian Pharaoh who was dealing with Moses: the initial times it was the Pharaoh who closed his heart – only afterwards did God Assist therein, presumably because that ruler had likely blasphemed the Holy Ghost!!!
I think u are speaking non sense and angrily over reacting. Please educate yourself and learn the truth.
Peace
Overreacting???
Focus on what I’ve written about how God LOVED – and LOVES – ALL of His Creation, dogs, pigs, apes and women included!!!! Why change what is already perfect in His Eyes?!???
God is more merciful on us and all his creation more than mothers are for their children.
The same God the one eternal God created of the heavens and the earth in 6 days. The God that Jews Christians and Muslims believe in.
Please take it easy it’s not good for your well being to get that angry
Peace
IF you Moslems would STOP TRYING TO FORCE your beliefs upon everybody and everything wherever you go, THEN I might believe you…
What you wrote above is in direct conflict with the unabrogated parts of the Qu’rân as well as the Hadith: Mohammed ALWAYS, ALWAYS was waging WAR!!! That’s why I can’t trust you or your fellow-Moslems… Where distrust is, there anger and hatred are present: your hate towards us “infidels” begets the hate we feel towards you. If you would let us be without the threat or imposition of force, then it could be a different thing, I say again…
Again no one is forcing anything on any one let me please
explain
There is big distinction between
Kafir:
(Arabic: someone who covered blocked and rejected) either
the message of Islam sent to our beloved prophet peace and blessings be upon him, or those who disbelieved in the One creator e.g. the Ferro of Egypt who claimed to be God, or the idol worshipers from the Arabs.
Some choose not to believe and decided to mind their own
business, and signed treaties like many of the Arab tribes at their time.
Some who waged war on Muslims killed and attacked expelled
us from our homes raped our women etc etc, these are the ones that we have to fight as we are defending ourselves not attacking. And the Surah 9 you mentioned earlier was after years of brutality against the Muslims in Arabia,and finally there was a peace treaty signed not to fight for 10 years; the non believers broke this treaty and only then was Surah 9 reviled to our beloved Prophet peace and blessings be upon him.
Ahlul kitab:
(people of the book Christians and Jews) wether they believed in the message or not. They follow messengers from the One all Mighty and believe in him. If they live in Muslim countries
they are called Ahlu thimmah (under the protection of the Muslim state) not to be attacked or prevented from building their houses of worship or celebrating their religious festivals, those who do otherwise are not following the true teachings
of Islam, and I do agree there are many misguided people today who unfortunately don’t know this and attack Christians in Muslim countries (that is wrong!), may the One all Mighty guide us and them to the straight path. However If they wage
war on us we have to protect our selves as mentioned above
Munafiqun:
or hypocrites those who claimed to be Muslims and hide
hatred and spite to the Muslims, working in secret with the enemies of Islam, in today’s world they are called traitors or spies. And they are the most dangerous!
Hope this cleared some misconceptions, please open your
heart to Islam it is an amazing faith if only people understood it.
Peace
The PRIMARY reason for the killing of these people was to wipe out the endemic idolatry, which included rituals such as child sacrifice and religious prostitution that was rife in the land. Almighty Yehovah calls it an abomination. They were Hebrews, people among their own tribes who refused to renounce the things GOD specifically commanded the Hebrews NOT to do. Something still practised by Islam and a great many among the western peoples, only now its called sexual jihad, abortion and other names. Give it any name you like, it is still an abomination.
You take out of context and forget what Yehovah actually required of the people. I suggest you go back and read the whole five books of Moses for STARTERS. Then the five gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Revelation. You will see that GOD doesn’t change his mind about anything and those who do not keep his commandments, will not enter the kingdom of Heaven, no matter what name we give ourselves. Yeshua (Jesus) said if you love me, you will keep my commandments. If we say we love him and do not do what he says, we are made liars and the truth is not in us. So, their may be lots of liars in the world but that doesn’t alter Yehovah’s commandments one iota. Let every man be a liar but Yehovah be proven true.
“He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does Yehovah require of you? To act justly and to show mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” Micah Ch 6v8.
Don’t Imams do that very thing all the time!
All true. Read and learn:
http://www.islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/Non-Muslims-Worse-than-Animals.htm
This seems to coincide with the teachings of the Fatawa of Ayatullah al
Uzama Syed Ali al-Husaini Seestani
http://www.al-islam.org/laws/najisthings.html
the kafir are on the same list as dogs
84. * The following ten things are essentially najis:
Urine
Faeces
Semen
Dead body
Blood
Dog
Pig
Kafir
Alcoholic liquors
The sweat of an animal who persistently eats najasat.
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love the picture!
Poor dogs, Mankind’s BEST Friend, to be hated and scorned like garbage – and then also to do the same with non-Moslems in addition to women, children, pigs and apes!!!
Long live dogs, pigs, &c. in addition to art, music, science, Western medicine – and in essence, EVERYTHING good that Islam hates and despises!!!! Islam is so utterly EVIL beyond redemption…
Hi Higlac,
please don’t believe every thing you read, for people such as the author of
this article will mislead people by taking things out of their context and
present them in this bad way.
In Islam Allah (God) told us in the Quran about a story of
young believers who escaped from their idol worshiping nation, they escaped to
a cave with their dog, and slept there for many years; the dog was sleeping with
them in the cave:
Quran 18:18 And you
would think them awake, while they were asleep. And We (Allah) turned them to
the right and to the left, while their dog stretched his forelegs at the
entrance.
Quran 18:22 They will say
there were three, the fourth of them being their dog; and they will say there
were five, the sixth of them being their dog – guessing at the unseen; and they
will say there were seven, and the eighth of them was their dog. Say, [O
Muhammad], “My Lord is most knowing of their number. None knows them
except a few. So do not argue about them except with an obvious argument and do
not inquire about them among [the speculators] from anyone.” (22)
http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.sahih/17:105
it
is narrated that the Prophet Mohammad Peace and blessing be upon him said: “A man saw a dog eating
wet dust out of thirst, so, the man took his shoe and kept on pouring water
with it for the dog until he quenched the dog’s thirst. Allaah Thanked him and
admitted him to Paradise.”
http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=49156
and if you want to know more about Islam there are many GOOD
sites like IslamWeb and will answer your questions
Eh, but we know too well that SO VERY, VERY MUCH of the Qu’rân (up to 40%) was and is abrogated in favour always of ever-more malignant, less benign “new revelations”!!! Furthermore, the Hadith (the various traditions ascribed to Mohammed – e.g., al-Bukhari, al-Muslim, al-Tabari) make things even worse.
One of the worst parts about that MONSTER Mohammed is that he was so wildly inconsistent – and when I read things like what are disclosed in chapters 2, 3, 5, 8 and especially 9 (the most belligerent and cruel chapter of the entire Qu’rân, written after he had achieved all his initial objectives like conquering Mecca!!!), I can only SHUDDER!!!!
To boot, with you Moslems ALWAYS commanded to wage war and deceive us “filthy infidels” as he and you think of non-Moslems (where the imams invariably have the last say!!), there’s simply NO WAY that we can EVER believe you, period!!!! Therefore, take your taqiyya and kitman ELSEWHERE!!!!
I really feel sorry for you and for all that blind hate in
your heart, and I ask the One all Mighty to cure your heart from all this hate.
Obviously you are not understanding what you are reading, and waging was is not
on non believers simply because they do not believe, if you know the history
the Muslims were not allowed to fight for more than 13 years in which they were
killed tortured boycotted evicted from their homes, when the non believers of Mecca
the pageants and idol worshipers came to kill all the Muslims in Madenah, then
and only then where the Muslims given permission to fight. Muslims
Quran 2 ALbaqarah. Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not
transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors. (190)
And we distinguish between those
who decide not to believe and those who wage war on us, and I don’t think you
will really turn your right cheek if some one slap you on your left!
Quran 6 At-Tawba And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then
grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah. Then deliver him
to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know. (6)
Quran 5 Al-Ma’ida And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed
therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed – then it is
those who are the defiantly disobedient. (47)
Blind hate???? BLIND HATE????
What of the sufferings of my ancestors over MANY centuries because of their being non-Moslem?? What of their having to mutilate their baby-sons so they wouldn’t be taken away between the ages of 3 and 8 to Moslem schools and taught in such ways and things as to renounce and forget all memory of home, parents, siblings, community, native religion – and instead have a fanatical loyalty to Islam and their caliph, sultan or whoever??
How do you account for Sura 9, especially with verses lik 9:123 or 9:5? How about 8:12? Need I go on??? Especially when you Moslems are commanded and are thus determined to conquer the world for Islam and ensure NO OTHER religion, NO OTHER culture, NO OTHER thinking remains???
If u are referring to the crusaders they were Christians
Or those who massacred the natives in Australia New Zealand north and South America they were all Christians.
Or hitler he was a Christian too, and all those millions killed in cold blood during world war 1&2 they were Christians too. And this new crusade led by America an NATO killing Muslims and Christians all together.
Please educate your self get your facts right. Try to learn from the Quran and Islam (the religion of peace)
WRONG!!!! I was NOT referring to the Crusades in the least!!!
[However, now that you’ve brought that subject up: the grim fact remains that you Moslems TRIGGERED the Crusades with your jihads!!!! You were PERPETUALLY ATTACKING Christian lands ever since Mohammed’s death in 0632, particularly in Spain, Portugal and even France (until Charles Martel’s victory in 0732 between Poitiers and Tours) in addition to the Byzantine Empire (your first attempt to take Constantinople occurred in 0717-718!!!!). Finally you as the Seljuq Turks so imperilled Constantinople in 1071 at the Battle of Manzikert that the Byzantine Emperor BEGGED the West for help – and in 1095, Pope Urban II declared the First Crusade, which took place in 1098-1101, when the Crusaders finally seized Jerusalem!!!]
Hitler was NO Christian whosoever (though he pretended to be a decent Catholic – which he most certainly was not!! – for the sake of politics before he finally got into power on 1933/01/30): in fact, he expressed considerable admiration for Islam as opposed to total disdain, even hatred, for Christianity!!!
As to whom I WAS referring to where you thought it was the crusaders: NO, I was referring to MOSLEM armies and occupiers, especially the Ottoman Turks who perpetrated such atrocities (and the majority of those children so enslaved became their best fighting-troops, the Yanichari {Janissaries})!!!
Next, if you’re thinking of following Jesus: why not do so NOW??? Start reading the Bible – starting with the Four Gospels and progressing then to the Book of Acts and the Epistles. Once you’ve mastered those parts, you can then tackle the Old Testament and – last of all – Revelation.
You are so deluded. Hitler was not a Christian.
MUSLIM SCHOLARS AGREE THAT MOHAMMED SODOMISED AISHA
Muslims always counter argue against the shock and horror in the West that their prophet was a pedophile and used to
sodomize children. Due to many debates and disagreement on this issue, they made official that Mohammed did not actually consume his marriage to Aisha when she was a 6 year old child until she was 9 years of age, supposedly making that better.
Furthermore, they often blame a 1400 practice on being ‘imported’ from abroad via video’s. Was there videos at the
age of Mohammed? And why would an illegal practice be imported and touted as legal? And what is the explanation for all testimonials of sodomy through history in the Muslim world, including the claim in the Hadiths that Mohammed and his followers engaged in homosexual incest of little boys?
Muslim scholars on Mohammed’s pedophilia and sodomy- rubbing his genitals between Ayisha’s thighs when she is
6 (Mufa’ Khathat).
Fatwa Number 41409 dated 7/5/1421 or August 8, 2000
The permanent committee for scientific research and religious sanctions [in Saudi Arabia] are:
Abdel Aziz ben Abdullah ben Mohammed Aal Sheikh, Chairman
Bakr ben Abdullah Abu Zeid, Member
Saleh ben Fozan Al Fozan, Member
Praise is to God and blessings on the Prophet that is the last of all prophets.
The permanent committee for scientific research and religious sanctions [in Saudi Arabia] has looked onto the request of Abu Abdallah Mohammed Al Shamry which was sent to the committee from the general secretariat of the Committee of Higher Scholars number 1809 date 3/5/1421. The requester asked the following:
Lately, it has spread on a large scale, especially in weddings, the habit of thighing little boys; what is the ruling of the Quran on this? Especially, that God’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) has thighed Ayesha (may God be pleased with her).
The committee, after studying the request, has ruled the following:
It is not the true guidance of Muslims throughout centuries to resort to the use of these unlawful practices, which were imported to our countries through the immoral videos that are being sent by the infidels and enemies of Islam. As for the
thighing of the messenger of God to his fiancée Ayesha, she was six years old and he could not engage in sexual intercourse with her because of her young age, therefore he used to place his penis between her thighs and rub it lightly. In addition, the messenger of God had full control of his penis in contrary to the believers. Therefore, it is not permitted to practice thighing, whether in weddings, or at homes, or schools, due to its grave harm. And may God curse the
infidels who brought these practices to our countries.
Don’t tell us to educate ourselves, you disgusting liar. Preach your Satanism elsewhere.
But that does not explain why the Hindus were massacred by Muslims. Seeking knowledge on that subject in 2014?
Plus prophet Jesus peace and blessing be upon him is innocent from all that blood shed, and any one who would use his name to do atrocities to humans. He is a true blessing and in sha Allah if I am alive when he comes back to this earth I will be one of his followers, along with many other true believers.
Evil one, your own allah tells you he is satan. He also tells you he fears the return of Jesus Christ.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 224 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The most awful name in Allah’s sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings).” JESUS CHRIST is refered to in the bible as king of Kings, and satan knows when he returns to judge he will caste satan (allah) into the lake of fire
In the Arabic language Malik is the one who owns, and a king is also called Malik since he owns everything in his land (amlak).
the One all Mighty (Allah) is the owner of everything that is owned (Malik al Amlak) and the owner of all the owners kings or non kings; so this narration is describing the kings of this world who their tyranny grows so much that they believe they own everything and everyone that walks on this earth.
Example Nebuchadrezzar Holako Hitler
Hope I cleared the misconception
MORE BS.
YOUR CULT TEACHES THAT HE BECOMES A MUSLIM & A
FOLLOWER OF THE MURDERING, RAPING, CHILD MOLESTING, ENSLAVING, THIEVING ARABIAN THUG OF MECCA.
WILL YOU EVER F–K OFF & STOP FARTING ALL OVER THIS PAGE?
TALKING OF FARTING!
WHEN SATAN FARTS:
WHEN SATAN HEARS AZAN HE STARTS FARTING!
Recently I was reading some authentic Hadith, which says that Satan Farts when Muslims pray. Isn’t this funny that Satan farts when Muslims are busy praying to the Creator of the world, and Allah does nothing against the disrespect of his prayer by a puny creature. Let’s read those Ahadith which narrates Satan’s farting when Azan is in air.
Sahih Muslim, Vol 4 No 1161:- Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When
there is a call to prayer the devil runs back breaking the
wind so that he may not hear the call, and when the call is complete he comes back.
Malik Muwatta, Book 3 No 6:-Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu’z-Zinad from al-Araj from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “When the call to prayer is made Shaytan retreats, passing wind, so that he will not hear the adhan. When the adhan is completed he comes back, until, when the iqama is said, he retreats again. When the iqama is completed, he comes back, until he comes between a man and his self and says, ’Think of such and such, think of such and such,’ which he was not thinkingabout before, until the man does not know how much he has prayed.”
Sahih Bukhari Vol 1 Book 11 No 582:- Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, ”When the Adhan is pronounced Satan takes to his heels and passes wind with noise during his flight in order not to hear the Adhan. When the Adhan is completed he comes back and again takes to his heels when the Iqama is pronounced and after its completion he returns again till he whispers into the heart of the person (to divert his attention from his prayer) and makes him remember things which
he does not recall to his mind before the prayer and that causes him to forget how much he has prayed.”
Unfortunately Allah have to tolerate this bad smell through out his life as Muslims will keep praying 5 times a day and Satan will keep Farting..
• FARTING IN THE MOSQUE
Islam Q & A:
QUESTION:
She passes wind continually; does this mean she cannot go to the mosque?
Am I not allowed to pray in the mosque, because I suffer from constant emission of wind that does not have a smell? How often do I have to do wudoo’ in order to offer obligatory and naafil prayers?
ANSWER:
Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly:
Emission of wind invalidates wudoo’, because of the report narrated by al-Bukhaari (135) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said:
The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No prayer will be accepted from one who is in a state of minor impurity until he does wudoo’.” A man from Hadramawt said: What is minor impurity, O Abu Hurayrah? He said: Breaking wind silently or loudly.
•
2 WAYS TO FART
Breaking wind is of two types:
1. Where there is a time when it stops, such as if it was coming out, then it stops for a while during which one can do wudoo’ and pray. In this case, you have to do wudoo’ and pray during the time when it stops.
•
THE SECOND WAY TO FART
2. Where it is continual and there is no time when it stops, rather it may come out at any time. In this case you should do wudoo’ for every prayer after the time for that prayer begins, and pray the obligatory prayer and whatever naafil
prayers you want with this wudoo’, and whatever wind comes out will not affect you, even if that is during prayer.
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MOHAMMAD HATER OF FARTS
Volume 1, Book 4, Number 137:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “The prayer of a person who does ,Hadath (passes, urine, stool or wind) is not accepted till he performs (repeats) the ablution.” A person from Hadaramout asked Abu Huraira, “What is ‘Hadath’?” Abu Huraira replied, ” ‘Hadath’ means the passing of wind from the anus.”
Note: Ritualistic cleaning is necessary after farting.
•
“Allaah intends for you ease”
[al-Baqarah 2:185]
“and has not laid upon you in religion any hardship”
If what comes out has an unpleasant smell, it is not permissible for you to go to the mosque, because of the annoyance that this will cause to the worshippers and the angels.
[al-Hajj 22:78].
End quote.
BIG FART
It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (5/411):
The basic principle is that emission of wind invalidates wudoo’, but if it comes out of a person constantly, he has to do wudoo’ for each prayer when he wants to pray, then if it comes out of him whilst he is praying, it will not invalidate the prayer and he has to continue his prayer until he completes it, as a concession from Allah to His slaves and so as to relieve them of hardship, as Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
WHY MUSLIMS CAN’T EAT CABBAGE & BACON (fart, fart, fart)
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on
him) said:
If a person cannot remain in a state of purity for the length of the prayer, he should do wudoo’ and pray, and it will not matter if anything comes out of him during the prayer, and this wudoo’ will not be invalidated by that, according to the consensus of the imams. The most he has to do is do wudoo’ for each prayer. End quote from Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 21/221.
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Islam is a blasphemy to the true God and if you value your own soul you will abandon it.
Your insane and blind hatred only mirrors the blind and demonic hatred of your own allah (satan)
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm
Quran 25:63.
And the servants of Arrahman (the Most Merciful) are those who walk upon the earth gently and humbly , and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace, (63)
YOU ARE A TAQIYYA LYING MORONIC MOHAMMEDAN!
THIS IS WHAT YOUR CULT TEACHES:
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w4.0 THE FINALITY OF THE PROPHET’S MESSAGE
(from al.5)
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(n:) This section has been translated to clarify some possible confusions among Muslims as to Islam’s place among world religions. The discussion centers on three points:
(1) Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace) is the last prophet and messenger. Anyone claiming to be a prophet or messenger of Allah after him or to found a new religion is a fraud, misled and misleading.
(2) Previously revealed religions were valid in their own eras, as is attested to by many verses of the Holy Koran, but were abrogated by the universal message of Islam, as is equally attested to by many verses of the Koran. Both points are
worthy of attention from English-speaking Muslims, who are occasionally exposed to erroneous theories advanced by some teachers and Koran translators affirming these religions’ validity but denying or not mentioning their abrogation, or that it is unbelief (kufr) to hold that the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions, such as “Christianity” or “Judaism,” are acceptable to Allah Most High after He has sent the final Messenger (Allah bless him give him peace) to the entire world (dis:
08.7(20»: This is a matter over which there is no disagreement among Islamic scholars, and if English-speaking Muslims at times discuss it as if there were
some question about it, the only reason can be that no one has yet offered them a translation of a scholarly Koranic exegesis (tafsir) to explain the accord between the various Koranic verses, and their agreement with the sunna. The few
passages translated below will hopefully be of use until this has been done.
(3) Islam is the final religion that Allah Most High will never lessen or abrogate until the Last Day. A hadith that seems to imply that “a tenth of Islam” will be enough for Muslims in the latter days is discussed at the end of the section.
w4.2 (Ibn.Kathir:) Allah’ Most High says:
“Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but the Messenger of Allah and the Last of the Prophets. And Allah has knowledge of everything” (Koran 33:40).
This Koranic verse is an unequivocally decisive primary text establishing that there will be no prophet after him. And since’ there will be no prophet (nabi), it follows a fortiori that there will be no prophetic messenger (rasul).
The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:
(1) “Messengerhood and prophethood have ceased. There will be no messenger or prophet after me.”
(2) “My likeness among the prophets is as a man who, having built a house and put the finishing touches on it and made it seemly, yet left one place without a prick.
When anyone entered it and saw this, he would exclaim, ‘How excellent it is, but for the place of this prick.’ Now, I am the place of that prick: through me the line of the prophets (Allah bless them and give them peace) has been brought to
completion.”
(COMMANDMENTS OF GOD ABROGATED)
Muhammad said, he is allowed to MURDER, RAPE, CHILD MOLEST, ENSLAVE & STEAL!
(3) “I have been favored above the prophets in six things: I have been endowed with consummate succinctness of speech, made triumphant through dread, war booty has
been made lawful for me, the whole earth has been made a purified place of worship for me, I have been sent to all created beings, and the succession of prophets has been completed in me.”
Allah Most Blessed and Exalted has stated in His Book, as has His messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) in hadiths of numerous channels of transmission (mutawatir, def: o22.1(d(II))) that there will be no prophet after him, so that everyone may know that whoever claims this rank thereafter is a lying pretender, misled and misleading, even if he should stage miracles and exhibit all kinds of magic, talismans, and spells (Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Azim (y60), 3.493-94),
w4.3 (Imam Baghawi:) The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:
“By Him in whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, any person of this Community, any Jew, or any Christian who hears without believing in what I have been sent with will be an inhabitant of hell.”
This is a rigorously authenticated (sahih) hadith that was recorded by Muslim (Sharh alsunna (y22), 1.104-5).
w4.4 (Ibn Kathir:) Allah Most High says:
“Surely those who believe, those of Jewry, the Christians, and the Sabaeans–whoever has faith in Allah and the Last Day, and works righteousness, their wage awaits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be upon them, and neither shall they
sorrow” (Koran 2:62).
Suddi states that the verse “Surely those who believe, etc. “was revealed about the former companions of Salman the Persian when he mentioned them to the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), relating how they had been, saying, “They used to pray, fast, and believe in you, and testify that you would be sent as a prophet.” When he had finished praising them, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) replied, “Salman, they are the denizens of hell,.” which came to discomfit Salman greatly, and so Allah revealed this verse.
The faith of the Jews was that of whoever adhered to the Torah and the sunna of Moses (upon whom be peace) until the coming of Jesus.
When Jesus came, whoever held fast to the Torah and the sunna of Moses without giving them up and following Jesus was lost.
The faith of the Christians was that whoever adhered to the Evangel and precepts of Jesus, their faith was valid and acceptable until the coming of Muhammad (Allah bless him
and give him peace). Those of them who did not then follow Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace) and give up the sunna of Jesus and the Evangel were lost.
The foregoing is not contradicted by the hadith relating that the verse,
“Surely those who believe, those of Jewry, the Christians, and the Sabaeans-whoever has faith in Allah and the Last Day … ” was followed by Allah revealing, “Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam will never have it accepted of him, and he
will be of those who have truly failed in the hereafter” (Koran 3:85), for the hadith merely confirms that no one’s way or spiritual works are acceptable unless they conform to the Sacred Law of Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him
peace) now that he has been sent with it. As for people prior to this, anyone who followed the messenger of his own time was guided, on the right path; and was saved (Tafsir al-Qur’an al-‘Azim (y60), 1.103).
ISLAM IS THE FINAL RELIGION THAT ALLAH WILL
NEVER ABROGATE UNTIL THE LAST DAY
w4.5 (Ibn Kathir:) Allah Most High says,
“Today I have perfected your religion for you and completed My favor upon you, and I please that your religion be Islam” (Koran 5:3), meaning, “So accept it for yourselves, for it is the religion Allah loves and accepts, with which He has sent the best of noble messengers and has revealed in the most sublime of His Books.” ‘Ali ibn Abi Talha relates from Ibn’ Abbas that “Today I have perfected your religion for you … means Islam, Allah thereby informing His prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and the believers that He has
perfected their faith for them, so they will never require anything more. He has completed it and will never diminish it, is pleased with it and will never detest it (ibid., 2.12).
w4.6 (Qurtubi:) It is likely that by ” … I please that your religion be Islam” (Koran 5:3), Allah means, “I am pleased with your Islam that you follow today as a religion that will endure in its perfection until the end of time, and I will cause nothing of it to be abrogated” (al-Jami’ Ii ahkam al-Qur’an (y117) , 6.63).
w4.7 (n: The following hadith has been represented by some contemporary Muslims as meaning that a tenth of Islam will be enough for Muslims in the latter days, a misunderstanding felt to merit the explanation provided by the commentary below.
)
The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: “Verily you are in a time when whoever of you abandons a tenth of what he has been commanded shall be lost. There will come a time when whoever practices a tenth of what he has been commanded will find salvation.”
Verily you (‘Abd al-Ra’uf Munawi:) 0 Companions of the Prophet are in a time characterized by safety, and the glory of Islam when whoever of you abandons a tenth of what he has been commanded meaning of the obligation to command. The right and forbid the wrong (def: ql), for it is not permissible to interpret this utterance as applicable to
all that has been commanded, it being understood that a Muslim has no excuse for neglecting things which are personally obligatory will be lost to destruction, since the religion of Islam is now strong and there are many who aid it, so that your abandoning it is a shortcoming for which no one
is excused under such circumstances.
There will come a time in which Islam will weaken, tyrants multiply, corruption spread, lying pretenders grow numerous , and those helping the religion grow few, so that Muslims will be excused for leaving some things out of sheer incapacity, without being guilty of remissness when whoever of
the people of that time which contains trials and afflictions practices a tenth of what he has been commanded will find salvation because he is under duress, and Allah charges no soul with more than it is capable of, as He says, “Fear Allah as much as you are able to” (Koran 64:16).
Tirmidhi recorded this hadith, which he termed singular (gharib), while Ibn Jawzi listed it in his work on hadith forgeries, mentioning that Nasa’j said it was unacknowledgeable, having been conveyed through Nu’aym ibn Hammad, an unreliable
transmitter (Fayd at-Qadir sharh alJami’ aZ-saghir (y91), 2.556).
FROM THE QURAN, ALLAH SHOWS HE WANTS THE SAME AS SATAN, USES THE PROMISE OF SINS AS REWARDS, JUST LIKE SATAN, LIES LIKE SATAN, USES SAME PLANS AS SATAN, LIKES WHAT SATAN LIKES, HATES WHAT SATAN HATES, ADMITS HE IS SATAN IN QURAN (BEST OF DECEIVERS), SOME OF ALLAHS OTHER TITLES ARE ALSO ATTRIBUTES OF SATAN
ONE OF SATANS NAMES IS THE SERPENT (SNAKE), SATAN APPEARED AS A SNAKE IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN – EVEN ALLAHS NAME, IN ARABIC LOOKS LIKE A SNAKE – THE SYMBOL OF SATAN http://www.artislamic.com/3dd-esmullah.html
Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 224 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The most awful name in Allah’s sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings).” JESUS CHRIST is refered to in the bible as king of Kings, and satan knows when he returns to judge he will caste satan (allah) into the lake of fire
Please watch the videos I posted earlies about
the Jews mentioning the name Allah in their scriptures as, Allah is God in Semetic
languages Arabic Hebrew and Aramaic (the original language of the Bible) and
thank you for the link, it is called Arabic calligraphy.
This link is for the Arabic version of the
Bible
http://www.injeel.com/Search.aspx?svn=2&btp=3&stp=0&tx=%u0627%u0644%u0644%u0647
can u find the name Allah? Could you please ask an Arab Christian about that?
can u see the name Allah on the right when translating “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
http://www.injeel.com/Read.aspx?vn=1,3&t=1
thank you
Carful in what you say, and do not cause mischief to your own self, and do not throw your own self in hell fire by insulting the One who created you!
And do your research Allah is God in Semitic languages Dios in Spanish Dieu in french Gud in Swedish and Gott german Bůh in Czech etc etc, all refering to the same One who created every thing and every One
I WILL SAY THIS AS NICE AS I CAN:
BULL SH-T.
Allah is a PAGAN idol that was WORSHIPPED in the Kaaba by Muhammad, his father, his uncles, his grandfather & ALL who belonged to him.
The BS that you are trying to pass unto unsuspecting people, will NOT get past those of us who know all about your CULT OF DEATH!
Human sacrifices were offered to Allah in the Kaaba & Muhammad’s father was going to be offered up as one by his father.
Allah is a PIMP for his Pervert Muhammad.
Sura 66 is all about Muhammad getting caught with his pants down around his ankles, as he is screwing Miriam, the Copt slave, by his wife Hafsa – IN HER HOUSE -IN HER BED – ON HER DAY! She went BALLISTIC & told Aisha & they gave Muhammad a real bollocking!
Muhammad had to think fast to get out of this mess & so he came up with Sura 66.
But the 2 wives got their own back on him.
The Shia sect teach that they poisoned Muhammad & blamed a Jewess for doing it!
They teach that Aisha is in Hell, with her father & Umar, the first & second Kalifa.
Now that’s some F–king Cult.
And they have the “balls” to call us names?
I’ve done my reasearch my friend and I know what stinking evil Islam is. Allah is not God, so practise your taqiyya and your dawah elsewhere.
Yep. Poor allah/satan is going to know fear for the first time in his existence.
Islam is the ultimate idol worship its history is routed in paganism and the worship of the moon and stars that’s why islam worships a dead planet on every flag .How can Mohamed be a prophet with out a miracle or prophecy .There is no other name under heaven only Jesus Christ can take you to heaven not a suicide vest
Im not white but Muslim’s are becoming like Nazis man stupid Muslims wake up your not white and the whole world doesn’t not want to be like you backward monkeys
Isl@m never changes. It is a murderous delusional f@scist dict@torship under the smoke of religion.
Nothing in your filthy beliefs makes any sense. The ramblings of a murderous madman.
I have jusl read this and more and I declare Islam to be totally bereft of any inteliigence, fly droppings clean, what a load of shit!
Caliph Omar al-Khattab may have taught this; Islam does not.
So where do we go to find out what exactly does Islam teach?
From the Quran and the teachings of Prophet Mohammad peace
and blessings be upon him
good idea! Can you say where Raymond (or I) have gone wrong in following your advice? Do you know more than the Muslims that he and I have quoted? thanks
a few more quotes to mull over:
Bukari Volume 4,
Book 54, Number 448:
Narrated Abu Talha:
I heard Allah’s Apostle saying; “Angels (of Mercy) do
not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a
human being or an animal).”
Bukari Volume 4,
Book 54, Number 450:
Narrated Salim’s father:
Once Gabriel promised the Prophet (that he would
visit him, but Gabriel did not come) and later on he said, “We, angels, do
not enter a house which contains a picture or a dog.”
“The Prophet Muhammad
ordered that all dogs should be killed except those used for the purpose of
agriculture or for the protection of live stock” (hadith Bukari # 540 &
541)
I grow up in a home that had a female Dog, you will smell a punishing
dog smell every time you entered the house, especially when they are on heat,
hair is all over the place, saliva and when she gets her period that was a totally
different story!! these are animals and keeping them in the house will make
that house unclean. Hence the hadeeth you quoted. They are wonderful creatures
that Allah has created and they have all rights to live on this earth like any
creature,
Quran 6 Al-An’am. And there is no creature on [or within] the earth or bird that
flies with its wings except [that they are] communities like you. We have not
neglected in the Register a thing. Then unto their Lord they will be gathered. (38)
We can have them for guarding hunting and as shepherd helpers.
In civilised countries all dogs must have owners, if they
are found in the street wandering around they are captured and placed in what
is called an animal shelter (cages) if no one wants them they put them to sleep
(kill them) that is done to protect the nation from being attacked by those
dogs. Tell me how would you feel if you little child came home crying because
he/she was bitten by a dog that had rabies???
As for pictures, I agree it is a taboo in Islam to have any
kind of image sculpture of anything like that, in fear that we will become like
the Catholics, worshipping the cross their prophet Jesus peace and blessings be
upon him, saints and God knows what.
Remember the first commandment Deuteronomy 5:6-21):
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any
likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is
in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them…..
I think we also agree on this point
It would be nice if you actually answered my question. Can
you tell me where Raymond (or I) got it wrong?
So do you know more than ‘Omar al-Khattab — one of Sunni Islam’s “four righteous caliphs”’?
You also know more than Ayatullah al Uzama Syed Ali al-Husaini Seestani?
How many followers do you have that consider you as an authority in Islam?
You respond to my question by answering a different question. How evasive of you!
And so what if a female dog is in the house! Is not Allah
capable of dealing with that? Is he/she/it so sensitive that he/she/it must stay away from one of his/her/it’s creatures that he/she/it actually made? How pathetic!
Your Mohammed said to kill all dogs ‘except those used for the purpose of agriculture or for the protection of live stock.”
What if a dog is used as a guide for the blind? Or to do tricks? Or a watch dog? Or simply as a companion? Your Mohammed says they should be killed! Do you go against your Mohammed?
But this is getting off the topic of Ramond’s post. Non-Muslims
are considered the equivalent of dogs in Islam. Or to expand the metaphor non-Muslims are like cattle. That is your Allah says that in Qur’an 7:179 – ‘They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).’
Btw, you nothing about Catholicism.
I am glad to know however that your are still seeking knowledge! Keeping reading Raymond Ibrahim!
Let me also add that while dogs can have their smell all right, so do cats and other animals. To me, one of the most odious of smells is the male cat’s marking spray!!
Otherwise, excellently written, Kinana – BRAVA!!!
Where you and Raymond went wrong is trying to take this
Hadeeth out of its context, this amazing incident teaches us Sabir (patients) and honouring our treaties even if they are not in our favour. The only thing you concentrated on is how Omar Bin Alkhatab (radya Allahu Anhu) said that the blood of a Mushrik (one who associates partners with the One all Mighty) is like a blood of a dog. He was not referring to Ahlul Kitab (Christians and Jews) he was not referring to those whom were mentioned in Surat Alkafirun http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.sahih/109:1 “For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.” (6), he was refering to those idol worshipers in Arabia, and to those who fought the Muslims tortured them abused them and expelled them from their homes and city (Mecca) for 13 years, and after all that, and after the Muslims immigrated to Madenah, they came after them to kill them, and this incident in this Hadeeth is about the man who came to force his son who was among the week ones of the Muslims (Mustad’afeen) back to the religion of the pagans, yet our beloved prophet did not attack him or brake the treaty and told Abu Jundul “have patients and faith in Allah, for Allah will give you and those Mustad’afeen with you a relief and exit, we have made a peace treaty between us and the tribe, and we have promised them this matter and they have given us allegiance from Allah, and we will never be traitors [defectors, backstab them].”
This is our Prophet and this our faith.
And yes since you know Arabic Kalb (dog) is an insult and
calling someone a dog is referring to the filthy aspect of the dog, not the loyalty part, nor the cute cuddle part that you tried to manipulate the emotions of the readers. Similarly in English the word bitch means a female dog, and it is a very big insult to call a woman that, or some ones mother with that, and you are referring to the promiscuous aspect of the female dog associating it with that woman, not that she is loyal and cute and cuddly.
And as for Ayatullah al Uzama Syed Ali al-Husaini Seestani, is a man who claimed divinity such as your Pope did, and this is HARAM in Islam (forbidden) for even our prophet Mohammad peace and blessings be upon him never claimed divinity
Quran 17 Alkahf:
Say [O Muhammad], “I
am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord – let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone.” (110)
As for the cattle you
mentioned:
Allah said in the Quran 25
Alfurqan
Have you seen the one who takes as his god according to his own desire? Then would you be responsible for him? (43)
Or do you think that most of them hear or reason? They are only like the cattle – in fact more astray from the path than them! (44)
Because no matter how much you try to reason or put some
sense in a cow for example to take a medicine, she will make a strange sound in your face and walk away; similarly no matter how much you try to make sense and try to convince those that Islam is a revelation form the One all Mighty above,
and this is the right straight path that will save you in this life and the afterlife, they will yell argue and walk away, and we have many examples in on this page. And they are more astray than cattle because if a cow knows that something is bad for her she will stay away from it, yet some people know how bad intoxicant are how filthy pig meat is who wrong it is to worship a stone, yet they still do it.
So thank you for giving this example.
Did I answer your question(s) or do you need more explanation?
Will you accept Islam as the true guidance from the One all
mighty? Following the foot steps of all our beloved prophets form the time of Adam Noah Jacob Yusuf Moses Jesus Mohamad peace and blessings be upon them all
Quran 2 Albaqarah
“We make no
distinction between any of His messengers.” And they say, “We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination.” (285)
Peace to all
And according to the Hadeeth mentioned about how we Muslims must
honour our treaties and allegiances, please listen to this video, the treaty
between Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him, to the Christians of
Najran and to all Christians on earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPvJ3QMKEM4
and this is what we should honour as Muslims today and whoever
does not do what this treaty is saying has disobeyed the messenger of Allah.
To seekingknowledge2011
You accuse me, Higlac, and Mr Ibrahim of taking the messages from the Qur’an and hadith ‘out of context.’ We three have offered many quotes and references but somehow you know that the words we quote from the Qur’an
and hadith mean something different than what they seem to actually say.
Well I reverse the tables on you. The Qur’an and hadith is
without authority except for what you Muslims give it. Omar is one of the ‘rightly guided Caliphs’ and now we know that you are one of the ‘rightly guided Muslims’. You are more rightly guided than even Ayatullah al Uzama Syed Ali al-Husaini Seestani!
You speak of Mushrik but how is that to be understood? You say it means ‘one who associates partners with the One all Mighty.’ But surely you must know that according to many Muslims that term includes Christians because of the doctrine of the Trinity. So when Allah speaks against polytheists Christians are also included, even though they are also called ‘People of the Book’.
Mohammed prohibited all non-Muslims to enter Arabia or Mecca (see Qur’an 9:28). Not because they are non-Muslim but because primarily they are ‘impure’ and they are ‘impure’ because they are not believers. Mohammed also said: ‘I will
expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula
and will not leave any but Muslim.’ (Muslim 019, no. 4366)
Qur’an 9:28
‘O you who believe (in Allah’s Oneness and in His Messenger (Muhammad SAW)! Verily, the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah, and in the Message of Muhammad SAW) are Najasun (impure)…‘
So like dogs, non-Muslims are filthy and only of value if they produce things for Muslims and they will be kept on a leash.
To paraphrase the above hadith: ‘Mohammed ordered that all dogs and non-Muslims should be killed except those used for the purpose of agriculture or for the protection of live stock or for so long as they submit to the rule of Muslims and work like slaves for Muslims.’ (hadith Bukari # 540 & 541)
You said:
‘And as for Ayatullah al Uzama Syed Ali al-Husaini Seestani, is a man who claimed divinity such as your Pope did…’
Can you provide evidence that al-Husaini Seestani claimed to be divine? And I notice that you did not take my advice about Catholicism. To stop further embarrassment to yourself you really need to refrain from commenting on a religion you clearly know absolutely nothing about.
Keep seeking knowledge in 2014!
Regards
As you know, allah said he has ordained a set number OF FALSE OATHS, for every muslim, which you must make., which of course leaves you muslims never making a true oath or peace agreement in case your defying your demonic allah.
really? if you do not understand these vesres i can explain them to you.
Quran 3:77
Indeed, those who exchange the covenant of Allah and their [own] oaths for a small price will have no share in the Hereafter, and Allah will not speak to them or look at them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them; and they will have a painful punishment. (77)
Quran 16:95
And do not take your oaths as [means of] deceit between you, lest a foot slip after it was [once] firm, and you would taste evil [in this world] for what [people] you diverted from the way of Allah, and you would have [in the Hereafter] a great punishment. (94)And do not exchange the covenant of Allah for a small price. Indeed, what is with Allah is best for you, if only you could know. (95)
Quran 4:135
O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both. So follow not [personal] inclination, lest you not be just. And if you distort [your testimony] or refuse [to give it], then know that Allah is fully aware of all that you do. (135)
Quran 25:72.
And (those true servants of the All-Merciful are they) who do not take part in, or bear witness to, any vanity or falsehood (and who will not deem anything true unless they know it to be so for certain), and when they happen to pass by anything vain and useless, pass by it with dignity;
Quran 13:25
But those who break the covenant of Allah after contracting it and sever that which Allah has ordered to be joined and spread corruption on earth – for them is the curse, and they will have the worst home. (25)
do you want more?
i just recently started reading some quran. one thing that i like about it is the idea for people to study, observe the world and nature, learn science and use what one learns to further the glory of god.
but i find a few inconsistencies…animals dogs and all other species are part of the nature…how does it improve the glory of god if one puts themselves above all of other gods creations and steals all from them…the wild, the food and freedom. there are few stories and they are confusing…one about a “loose” woman who is forgiven for her sins by giving water to a thirsty dog, the one mentioned earlier about a dog sleeping in a cave with the people, then about a dog who slept in mohameds room the night when the “angel” did not visit the prophet.
more inconsistencies are regarding the non muslim people…in his early writings the prophet clearly wrote that it was fine for muslims to eat the food of the people of the book, and to marry their women and to not misuse them. but later on in quran they became the infidels..and today some mulims see it as ok to abuse them rape them and treat them like dirt.
i believe actions always speak louder than words…while it is not ok for one muslim to talk bad or harm another muslim in theory…what do they do in practice…why are women burned and hurt for going to schools, who so much hate and abuse towards each other and towards the western people.
it seems that it is no longer a matter of religion…religion is being twisted to suit different cults personal agendas for power and control. if religions are to be used that way than no thanks….
personally i believe in god as a superior being..i maybe be wrong but i see him as impersonation of all that is good that i can imagine…so yes to god…no to religions because they are just words of other men..other human beings…which can be twisted used and missused just like other human beings can.
Hi Joan
Sorry for the late replay, I am really happy that you are
reading the Quran, and pray that it will be of guidance to me you and every one on this planet to spread peace and harmony on earth.
The One all Mighty (Allah) said to us in the Quran in 6:38
And there is no creature on [or within] the earth or bird that flies with its wings except [that they are] communities like you. We have not neglected in the Register a thing. Then unto
their Lord they will be gathered. (38)
God has created different species on this earth each one favoured over another, one can swim, one can fly, one
faster than the other, one eats the other etc, all have been created according to the divine wisdom that we are learning about days after day through research and science.
And as the One all Mighty tells us in the Quran 17:70
And We have certainly honoured the children of Adam and carried them on the land and sea and provided for them
of the good things and preferred them over much of what We have created, with [definite] preference. (70)
As we were given the brain and power to build planes, ships high building, and be able to communicate from different parts of the world, and many other things, yet with this we are given a big responsibility to preserve and protect this environment that we live in
“If any Muslim plants a tree or sows a field, and a human,
bird or animal eats from it, it shall be reckoned as charity from him.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Saheeh Muslim)
Much more on this topic can be found on the following link
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/307/
in regards to all those stories, about the loose woman or the man who gave water to a dog and entered heaven, is to show us the mercy of God and how we should treat all creation
with kindness; and the people of the cave were young believers who fled from there idol worshiping people, and had a dog with them, they slept in a cave for many years and the dog performed his duty of guarding by sleeping in the entrance of the cave, as mentioned in Quran 17:18 “while their dog stretched his forelegs at the entrance.” And angels will not enter any place that is not clean, whether the impurity is caused by a human or any other creature like a dog.
As for the non Muslims I have explained in one of the posts below all the way at the bottom of the page the difference
between the people of the book or scriptures (Christians and Jews), the idol worshipers, those who declare war on the Muslims, and the Hypocrites.
The food and women of the people of the book was and still is Halal (lawful) for Muslims, as long as the food is done as per the commands of God in the previous scriptures (e.g. Kosher).
Those Muslims who see it ok to use and abuse people of the
scriptures that have not caused them harm, have done mischief on their own selves and have disobeyed the commands of Allah and his messenger and they will get what they deserve.
As we are told in the Quran 60:8-9
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes – from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. (8)Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion –
[forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers. (9)
and before prophet Mohammad peace and blessing be upon him passed away, a group of Christians from a city called Najran came to him asking about Islam, they decided not to enter Islam and a peace treaty was signed between the 2 based on respect and coexistence, giving the Christians the right to have their places of worship, religious festivals, and it is the duty on the Muslims to offer them protection and honour this treaty until the day of judgment and who ever broke the treaty has disobeyed Allah and his messenger. For more info on the treaty
http://www.explore-quran.com/Exploratory20works/dars/Treaty%20of%20Najran.htm
and in regards to the actions of some Muslims today, we have
bad seeds in every society, many of these people have grown up in war torn zones never saw or felt peace, e.g. Afghanistan, in the past 60 years or so, they were attached by the 3 biggest powers in the world, Britain, Soviet Union
and USA+NATO; and media loves these stories and always associates them to Islam, neglecting facts like poverty ignorance lack of education hard life depression despair etc etc.
Likewise we cannot say Christianity is bad because priests
and Nuns abuse children, or for those who mass murder children in school, or one guy in Australia who through his 5 year old daughter off a bridge to get back at his ex-wife, nor does the Lord’s Resistance Movement in Africa represent all the Christians in the world. Bad seeds in every society
And bad people will use any excuse to seek power and control, whether it be religion Communism, capitalism or any ism there is, during the cold war many people around the
world never heard of Islam, yet it has been there for more the 1400 years.
Islam means Submission, a Muslim is one who Submits his will to his creator the One and only that has nothing and no one equal or resembles him in any way.
Quran 112
Say: “He – (Allah) God, (Who is)
the Unique One of Absolute Oneness. (1)
“God – (Allah) the
Eternally-Besought-of-All (Himself in no need of anything). (2)
“He begets not, nor is He
begotten. (3)
“And comparable to Him there is
none. ” (4)
Peace and blessings of the One all Mighty be upon you
They don’t realize that they can’t see that their muslim cult is the most immoral,unethical foul smelling sub humans on the face of the planet!
Sin blinds
i agree
hi
Islam is not a cult, but a religion from the one all mighty
God, Islam means Submission to God, we believe in all the prophets and previous
scriptures
Quran 3:84 Say, “We
have believed in Allah (God) and in what was revealed to us and what was
revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what
was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no
distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him (God).” (84)
http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.sahih/3:84
Islam is an amazing faith, I am more than happy to answer
any question you have.
Peace
So many, many LIES!!!!
I urge absolutely EVERYBODY to go to http://www.thereligionofpeace.com and study that entire Website, it’s that good and comprehensive!!! Others like http://www.barenakedislam.com, nocompulsion.com, shoebat.com and http://www.answering-muslims.org help buttress its thoroughly-justified claims.
The lies are in these websites you posted, shame on you promoting
hatred and misleading people, people if you want to know about Islam read the
Quran http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.sahih/1:1
and make your own judgment and don’t listen to these deceivers, go to websites
like:
http://en.islamway.net/
http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=listing&vPart=35
listen to people like Hamza Andreas Tzortzis a Greek brother
became a Muslim
http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/
or Yusuf Estes who was a church preacher/minister who became
a Muslim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F–kkNCaglk
please find out why they became Muslims and
judge for your selves
The shame is upon YOU, sir/madame!!! If nothing else were there, Islam’s track-record is there. [That includes centuries of my ancestors from Russia, the Ukraine, Serbia and enough other nations.]
Then, I’ve read not a little bit of the Qu’rân as well as enough of the Hadith to know that it’s YOU who’s playing with taqiyya and kitman!!! [Alternatively, perhaps you’ve not read enough of your own books and don’t know to account for the principle of abrogation used therein.]
Finally, let’s see you PROVE something genuinely wrong in one or more of those Websites which I so strongly endorse – with SOLID FACTS!!! NO emotion, NO “hand-waving” (as scientists would say), NO wholesale slander and/or libel!!!!
Lookalike this discussion is getting no where may the one all mighty guide you and guide us all, I will do what Allah ordered us to do in such situation.
Quran The (true) servants of the All-Merciful are they who move on the earth gently and humbly, and when the ignorant, foolish ones address them (with insolence or vulgarity as befits their ignorance and foolishness), they response with (words of) peace, (without engaging in hostility with them);
Peace.
Ps taqyah that u keep mentioning is lying it is not part of Islam, a certain group invented it and may Allah guide us and guide them, so they will stop doing it. Taqyah is haram
What a joke!!! May the One TRUE God Yahweh (YHWH) Shine His Face upon you and make you come to Him in the name of His Only-Begotten Son Jesus the Messiah – as He Did with Walid Shoebat, Taysir Abu-Saada and Kamal Saleem, all of who converted to Christianity. Your turn?…
Dont forget, to be a real muslim you have to do everything muhamad is recorded as doing in your books.
Have sex with an animal
have sex with children
have sex with other men (hadiths)
suck boys penises (hadiths)
have sex with a dead woman
wear womans clothing and boast you get your best replies from allah when you wear them.
steal
lie
make false oaths
speak from satan
Is this how a good Christian should be? Jesus peace and
blessings be upon him would never accept such behaviour from one of his followers.
Are you following “But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back.” If you consider me your enemy, although I did nothing bad to you, and I have nothing against you personally, but want what is best for you, guidance and winning heaven after this life is over.
Thank you for inspiring more revulsion by your lies.
I will be making leaflets to hand out, I will dedicate them to you.
Included on them will be a few choice video links that best expose muslamics lying agenda, ie common lies you and other muslims tell, together with the information so they can check up and find for themselves just what foul, depraved and evil liars you are.
Links to also expose abbrogation, taqiyya including your muslamic sources. Links to online official qurans, hadiths etc included.
Also historical information detailing some 270 million deaths as a result of your so called religion of peace.
Links where they can see for themselves the barbaric intolerant and violent acts committed on a daily bassis by you spawn of satan.
you sir say u came to islam by way of logic. I find that hard to believe,
consider your dear prophet made this statement.
“Abu Dharr (one of Muhammad’s close companions) was with Muhammad during the sunset. Muhammad asked him: ‘Do you know, O Abu Dharr where this sun sets?’ He answered; ‘God and His apostle know better.’ Muhammad said: ‘It sets in a spring of slimy water’” – al-Zamakhshari, The Kahshaf (3rd Edition, Vol. 2, p. 743, 1987) [1]
if you can find logic in this , I don’t know what to say.
Islamic teachers say the quaran is the words of god …
quaran
18: 86 Until when he reached the setting of the sun He found it set in a spring of murky water: near it he found a People: We said: “O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority) either to punish them or to treat them with kindness.”
quaran
21: 30 Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of Creation) before We clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? 31And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm lest it should shake with them and We have made therein broad highways (between mountains) for them to pass through: that they may receive guidance.
MY GUESS IS NEITHER MUHAMMA NOR ALLAH STUDY BIOLOGY OR PHYSICS
QUARAN
33:72 “We did indeed offer the opportunity to the Heavens, the Earth, the Mountains, but they refused to being afraid (of Allah’s torment). But man undertook it. He was unjust and foolish. Lo, he has proved a tyrant and fool, ignorant. Allah has to punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Unbelievers.
QUARAN
36: 40 It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon nor can the Night outstrip the Day: each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).
I COULD KEEP GOING WITH THIS, THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAT I CAN QUOTE FROM THE QUARAN THAT SHOWS IT IS ABSOLUTE RUBISH.
YOU CLAIM U CAME TO ISLAM BY LOGIC.
PLEASE SHOW ME THE LOGIC IN THIS NONSENSE.
I read your other comments to other people and u are complete liar.
u talk about how muslims for the 1st 10 years were persecuted .
that is a bold face lie, with in your Islamic txt is says the meccans called Muhammad a liar and many other things but there were not violent to him!
in fact if u wish we could go into detail about the poets who Muhammad had killed,
why were the poets kill? did they inflict mortal wounds to Muhammad and his followers?
NO they call it like it was, Muhammad was a fool who tried to fool the people and they saw him for what he was and like all rational people the spoke the truth and they were killed for it!
You actually think, showing the nature and character of a demon is something clever dont you.
But then I suppose you, in your weak corrupt nature, have to accept that muahamd said that every muslim has an evil jinn (demon).
I suppose you think demon possession is something to strive for so that you can be like muhamad, who admitted he also had a demon and spoke from satan!
What are you talking about? You do not even know me and you never met me to know anything about my nature.
Bring forward your facts so we know what we are talking about
sir or mam , please continue to post those website! they are a source of information to many who have no idea what islam is all about. unfortunately too many have bought into the lies told by muslims about islam being a religion of peace, the only peace anyone will get from islam is when they are dead, because there boy Muhammad and his leader Lucifer seek nothing more than the murder of anyone who will not submit!
so keep posting and as many as will listen tell them the truth.
I would suggest u check this out
Craig Winn does an excellent job of explaining Muhammad and his teaching . its very lengthy but very imformative
https://archive.org/details/prophetofdoom
I have a few questions for you.
I have been told by muslims that the bible is corrupt, say for argument sake this is true of the new testament. but no true of the old testament.
its been proven that the old testament has remained unchanged. proof . the scrolls that were discovered in Qumran in 1947. compared to what we have today it has remained unchanged.
muslims also tell me that they believe and accept the words of the prophets. by the way ” Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob” were no prophets I suggest u go and look at what the word prophet mean and see if applies to these men!
now the real prophets of the old testament .Ezekiel, Daniel,Jeremiah Joel, Isaiah, Micah ,hosea, Malachi ,Haggai , Zechariah just to name a few were JEWS
yet Muhammad wants to kill all the jews just like all muslims do today.
very strange of u ask me.
but my real question is how do u reconcile that fact that these prophets from the old testament say when the messiah returns he will destroy and punish certain nations.
EVERY SINGLE NATION THAT THE MESSIAH WILL DESTROY IS AN ISLAMIC NATION.
IF THE MESSIAH = YESHUA=JESUS, according to islacim teaching Jesus will convert to islam , why then does he destroy muslims nations.
bible does teach that Messiah will destroy those nations that will be aligned with the anti-Christ.
so please teach me why Messiah will destroy people who follow the peaceful religion of islam.
U HAVE A BIG PROBLEM MY FRIEND. SOMETHING IS NOT ADDING UP.
AND IF U WANT TO SCRIPTURE VERSES LET ME KNOW I WILL ”
, I am more than happy to answer
any question you have.”
I am told that Jesus was one of the Islamic prophet, yet his message seem to be the exact opposite of Muhammad .
case in point.
lets look at the 10 commandments
1.do not worship any other God.
its a fact that the name allah , was in use before Muhammad became a “prophet” allah was one of the many rock idols in the Kaaba.
even stranger is the fact that Muhammad god was named ar rahman
and if u want to say I made this up then go read your own Islamic txt
that’s were I found it.
so Muhammad broke the first of the 10 commandments
2.do not make any idols.
the black stone in black stone in mecca, why do muslims bow down to it 5 times a day?
u may want to consider that the pagans stone worshipers use to do the exact same thing.
3.do not take the lords name in vain, in other words don’t miss use it.
every time I turn on the television and I see a muslims about the blow something up or do anything else he is yelling allahu Akbar.
which means God is greater.
4.keep the Sabbath day holy.
muslims definitely don’t keep that one. come for prayer Friday prayers and get back to business as usual.
5.honour your mother and your father
I know a lot of muslims who are good people, and I like them.
but reality is Muhammad ” the praised one” is put before everyone and everything.
6.do not murder
wow this is a big one, all over Islamic txt are so many verses where Muhammad allowed his followers to murder people because they dare to taunt him, or kill them for there valuables, example , those who were involved in trade with the caravans, or murder those who oppose him, example the jewish tribes , where mass murder was committed so that his barbarian would take there possession and Muhammad would get his 1/5th . or the poets who spoke out against him were also murdered.
murder to get booty, slaves and land. lets not forget his great admiration for the wifes of the men who were killed, got to say Muhammad was sexual superman.
7.do not commit adultery
all is have to say about this one is , Muhammad according to Islamic txt was sexual spuerman, enough said, he pretty much banged everything that moved include this dear sweet 6 year old wife, its amazing that he waited till she was 9 before he let his lust get the best of him, for a moment I was starting to think he was good guy.
NOT!
8.do not steal.
oh brother, where do I start with this one, better yet islam does good job of exposing Muhammad and him stealing from caravans and everyone else I don’t need to say anything.
9. do not lie
Yahweh and his son Yahshua teach to tell the truth
but allah and Muhammad teach taqiyya and kitman.
why would god need to lie?
God does not lie , but his adversary does
Qur’an (3:54) – “And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them):
so if allah is scheming , which is being deceitful , can he ever be trusted? ONCE A LIAR ALWAYS A LIAR!
10.do not covet
well the ” best man ever” Muhammad certainly broke this one a few times,1 example, when he commit incest with his daughter in law.
son was away making money for the old man and he was not happy with all the wife’s he had needed to commit incest and take his sons wife.
muslims say allah is God, if this is true then god has short memory, has twisted sense of what truth is and probably had multiple personality. because allah appears to be different from Yahweh
in every way. in fact is the opposite.
so if muslim accept that old testatement then they have a problem because it contradicts allah teaching in absolutely every way,
Hi Chris
You are told correct, Jesus peace and blessings be upon him is one of the Allah’s prophets sent to the children of Israel but you were misinformed about the rest. Let me answer your false claims one by one:
False claim 1
The rock idol you are referring to was called Al-lat, Allah is
the one all might in all the Semitic languages Arabic Aramaic (the language of the people of Jesus) and Hebrew, Dios in Spanish God in English.
Please watch the following videos to clear any misconceptions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqHdVhVGwK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZZ8Gidgw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuKpLJlYnEw
Allah has 99 names one of them is Arrahmad meaning the
Exceedingly Compassionate, The Exceedingly Beneficent, The Exceedingly Gracious (to all of humanity and all creatures). Do you agree that this is my God and you’re God?
Quran 17:110 Say, “Call upon Allah or call upon Arrahmad.
Whichever [name] you call – to Him belong the best names.”
False claim 2
Alka’ba was the first house of worship ever build on earth
as mentioned in the Quran 3:95-96 Indeed, the first House [of worship] established for mankind was that at Bakkah (Makkah) – blessed and a guidance for the worlds. (96)In it are clear signs [such as] the standing place of Abraham. And whoever enters it shall be safe. And [due] to Allah from the people is a pilgrimage to the House – for whoever is able to find thereto a way. But whoever disbelieves – then indeed, Allah is free from need of the worlds. (97)
And it is a land mark to that holy spot that all Muslims on earth turn to when praying, we only worship the One all mighty Allah no one and nothing else.
False claim 3
Do you even know what that means?
Quran 2:224 And make not Allah’s (name) an excuse in
your oaths against doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons; for Allah is One Who heareth and knoweth all things. (224)
Do not use Allah ‘s name in the wrong situation curse by it or take false oaths to get small benefits from this worldly life.
I hope you understand what that means now. When someone says Allahu Akbar he or she are glorifying the One all Mighty and acknowledging that He is greater than everyone and everything.
False claim 4
Why, do you? Some go to church on Sunday. And no were in the Quran or the Sunnah are we required keep the Sabbath day holy
Quran 16:124 The sabbath was only appointed for those who differed over it (not for all the communities that were to follow the way of Ibrahim). And indeed, your Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that over which they used to differ. (124)
Quran 62 9-10 O you who have believed, when [the adhan] is called for the prayer on the day of Jumu’ah [Friday], then proceed to the remembrance of Allah and
leave trade. That is better for you, if you only knew. (9)And when the prayer has been concluded, disperse within the land and seek from the bounty of Allah, and remember Allah often that you may succeed. (10)
We are defiantly obeying Allah’s command
False claim 5
Love only comes from the heart and can never be imposed, we love Prophet Mohammad peace the blessings be upon him more than we love our own selves, once you know more about him and his true character and if you are guided (I pray for that) you will feel the same about him.
Quran 17:23-25. Your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him alone, and treat parents with the best of kindness. Should one of them, or both, attain old age in your
lifetime, do not say “UFF!” to them (as an indication of complaint orimpatience), nor push them away or yell at them; and always address them in gracious words.23. Lower to them the wing of humility out of mercy, and say: “My Lord, have mercy on them the way they cared for me in childhood.
” .24. Your Lord best knows what is in your souls (in respect of all matters, including what you think of your parents). If you are righteous (in your thoughts and deeds), then surely He is All-Forgiving to those who turn to Him in humble repentance,25
And many more in the Quran and Sunnah about respect and how to treat your parents. If you need more please let me know so I can provide them.
False claim 6
This is you ignorance and lack of understanding speaking,
let keep this discussion respectful!
Fist of all the Quran is from Allah reviled to prophet Mohammad Peace and blessing be upon him through the angel Gabriel.
Quran 2:190 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight
you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors. (190)
I have explained this in many locations on this page, but
again you picture that idol worshipers from the Arabs and the Jews as victims, simply because you do not know or turn a blind eye to what they have done to the Muslims.
The idol worshipers, 13 years of prosecution killing and torturing of the Muslims in Mecca that Muslims had to seek asylum in Madenah, the caravan had the goods stolen from the homes of the Muslims that they have left behind, and at the same time the Idol worshipers gathered armies and were
marching towards Madenah to kill all the Muslims, and FYI the caravan was not attacked.
The Jews:
Prophet Mohammad peace and blessings be upon him put forth a treaty with the Jews of Madenah stating in it the way they will coexist, giving them right to practice their religion and protect one another if attacked, and not to support the unbelievers against each other.
They broke every term of the treaty, they mistreated the Muslims, tried to kill our beloved Prophet and committed treason against their own city by supporting the non believers when they surrounded Madeenah in the Khandak
invasion; but the non believers retreated by the mercy of Allah, the Jews were given the option of what to do to them, and it was them who chose their own fate. And I do not think you will have more mercy if any group in your country committed treason and supported the enemy who is coming to invade your country.
To get a better understanding and more details about this
point please refer to the links
http://www.answering-christian-claims.com/The_Jewish_Tribes_Of_Madinah.html
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/treaty22.html
and nothing was done for worldly matters as you claim.
False claim 7
I remind you of being a good Christian and maintain respect especially if you are misguided and if you do not know!
Quran 17:32. Do not draw near to any unlawful sexual
intercourse; surely it is a shameful, indecent thing, and an evil way (leading to individual and social corruption).
Quran 13:38 And We have already sent messengers before you and assigned to them wives and descendants. And it was not for a messenger to come with a sign except by permission of Allah. For every term is a decree. (38)
From your book :
In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.
In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.
In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon’s son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.
Prophet Mohammad peace and blessings be upon him married only 1 woman when he was 25 a young man in a
place that polygamy was allowed and that was before he received the revelations; 4 years after his wife Khadeejah’s, death he remarried only as he was commanded by Allah, and those whom he married were the old widows with
orphans (the most vulnerable in society) A’ishah the daughter or Abu Baker was young and he married her as to strengthen the bond with Abu Baker (his friend), and she outlived him by 50 years teaching the people what she learnt and what she saw from the best character, our beloved prophet peace and blessings be upon him.
If you want to know more about this topic please read
http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=81505
False claim 8
Good because you have nothing to say and know nothing,
Quran 5:38 [As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they committed as a deterrent [punishment] from Allah. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise. (38)
And our beloved prophet said if his daughter steels cut off her hand!
False claim 9
Not sure where you get your
translation from, refer to this site http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.sahih/3:54. So interesting that many misguided people such as yourself always refer to this
bit of the Surah, but let us see what else Allah tells us in the same Surah and from the part that you do not quot :
Quran 3: 53-61 Our Lord, we have believed in what You revealed and have followed the messenger Jesus, so register us among the witnesses [to truth].” (53)And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners. (54)[Mention] when Allah said, “O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ. (55)And as for those who disbelieved, I will punish them with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers.” (56)But as for those who believed and did righteous deeds, He will give them in full their rewards, and Allah does not like the wrongdoers. (57)This is what We recite to you, [O Muhammad], of [Our] verses and the precise [and wise] message. (58)Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, “Be,” and he was. (59)The truth is from your Lord, so do not be among the doubters. (60)Then whoever argues with you about it after [this] knowledge has come to you – say, “Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then supplicate
earnestly [together] and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars [among us].” (61)
And this planning was when they plotted with Judas to
capture Jesus and crucify him, after all the miracles he has seen and all the kindness our beloved prophet Jesus peace and blessings be upon him treated him with, he betrayed him for a few coins, but Allah is the best planner were he
made Judas look like Jesus and he was crucified instead.
Quran 4:156-158 And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander, (156)And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. (157)Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is
Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. (158)
And if you are still in doubt them lets call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then supplicate earnestly [together] and invoke the curse of Allah (Yahweh) upon the liars [among us]
My email is [email protected] let me know
False claim 10
Your ignorance speaking again
Zayed Ibn Alharith was not prophet Mohammad’s son as Ibn Alharith means the son of Alharith, our beloved prophet
was blessed with 2 boys Ibrahem and Abdu-Allah and both died at early age. Zaid was adopted and Allah forbid any one from relating children whom are not there to them selves
Quran 33:4-5 And he has not made your adopted sons your [true] sons. That is [merely] your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the [right] way. (4)Call them by [the names of] their fathers; it is more just in the sight of Allah. But if you do not know their fathers – then
they are [still] your brothers in religion and those entrusted to you. And there is no blame upon you for that in which you have erred but [only for] what your hearts intended. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. (5)
And marrying Zaynab Bint Jahsh was to affirm this law as you cannot marry whom your father married
Quran 4:22 And do not marry those [women] whom your fathers married, except what has already occurred. Indeed, it was an immorality and hateful [to Allah] and was evil as a way. (22)
And the verses about this are so clear against your false claim
And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favour and you bestowed favour, “Keep your wife and fear Allah,” while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted children when they no longer have need of them. And ever is
the command of Allah accomplished. (37)There is not to be upon the Prophet any discomfort concerning that which Allah has imposed upon him. [This is] the established way of Allah with those [prophets] who have passed on before. And
ever is the command of Allah a destiny decreed. (38)[Allah praises] those who convey the messages of Allah and fear Him and do not fear anyone but Allah. And sufficient is Allah as Accountant. (39)Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah, of all things, Knowing. (40)
And not only Muslims say that Allah is God or Yahweh, Allah is God in Arabic Aramaic and Hebrew, watch the videos I posted above.
Now I have a question for you; if Islam was a false faith or ideology, how come Islam survived for more than 1400 years with over 1.6 billion or about 23.4% of the world population today after being fought throughout this time,
by the Crusades the Mongols and today America and their allies, and how come after all that Islam is still the fastest growing religion and how come so many intellects, priests preachers have embraced Islam?
first lets understand something Jesus was never allah prophet. he was the SON OF GOD, and allah was no god.
second u come and call me ignorant,
!
Quran 19:88-95
And they say, “The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.” (88)You have done an atrocious thing. (89)The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation (90)That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son. (91)And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son. (92)There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant. (93)He has enumerated them and counted them a [full] counting. (94)And all of them are coming to Him on the Day of Resurrection alone. (95)
u call me ignorant like u call every one else.
lets look at a few facts , and lets logic be the judge.
u and other muslims keep telling me how peaceful islam is.
Jesus teach love!
Mark 12:31
“Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”
Luke 6:31
Do to others as you would have them do to you.
Luke 6:35
But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High
there are many many verses in the bible where Jesus teach his followers to love , for he is love.
here are a few adjective to describe love.
peaceful, kind, tender, merciful, patience ,long suffering, forgiving, caring companionate.
the reason I am pointing this out is I want to show you that what Jesus teach is the exact opposite to what Muhammad teach.
Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
Quran (8:65) – “O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight…”
Quran (9:14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…”
Quran (9:38-39) – “O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.” This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell. TO BE PUNISHED IF THEY DONT FIGHT! WOW VERY PEACEFUL
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”
AND YOU WANT TO TELL ME THIS IS A PEACEFUL RELIGION?
Quran (47:35) – “Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: “have the upper hand”) for Allah is with you,”
I could go on and on with the disturbing verses.
my point is , how can these messages be from the same God.
Jesus teach love and mohammad and allah teach the exact opposite.
there is a serious contradiction between the 2 messages.
if u follow the path of logic the only logical conclusion is there are 2 different source for the material, one GOD and the second his nemesis Lucifer.
God thru Jesus teach to love, while allah teach thru Muhammad to kill anyone and anything that does not submit.
and don’t u dare come and tell me that there is no compulsion in islam. because your verses in the quaran will make a liar of you. and I will gladly point them out and quote them.
remember this , there is nothing greater than love, nothing.
at all.
does allah teach you to love?
think about it!
I think i replied to this question so many times on this page alone, in short those verses were revealed after years and years of Muslim being prosecuted tortured In Mecca by the idol worshipers, expelled from their homes and boycotted; after immigrating to Madenah the pagans of the Arab tribes gathered their armies and marched to kill all the Muslims in Madenah more than once, so those verses dictate how Muslims must fight back, if they are fought they have to stand firm and brave, and if the attachers ask to stop Muslims must stop and the best reward for those who defend the name of the One all Mighty is heaven.
Quran 2:190 Fight in the
way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors. (190)
please watch the following videos by Yusuf Estes (former Christian preacher who studied the Bible and became a Muslim devoting his life to clear up misconceptions about Islam, and invite to the path of Allah ISLAM he explains what you are enquiring about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MoRTfS75X8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZCIK8hRPh4
i have a question for you, if you and your friends wanted to live according to the rules of Yahweh, and you were tortured prosecuted and killed for more than 10 years by some idol worshipers, then you had to escape to another country who accepted Yahweh’s teachings, and you both wanted to live in peace and harmony, yet those idol worshipers did not leave you alone and followed you to kill you all, many time and on different occasions, would you sir turn your left cheek, or fight
back? Will you defend your country, defend your brothers and sisters, women and children, or will you really give them your other son after killing your first son? This is what those verses are all about.
Besides you and your friends are attacking us by establishing such websites, if you look at your comments and your friends comments, they are full of hate and attacks.
Why are you fighting the Muslims when we are the only people on earth beside the Christians who believe in Jesus peace and blessings be upon him, you glorify the Jews yet
they do not even believe in him, and called Mother Mary the purest of all women horrible things, how could you accept that and fight us?
How come you accept those who worship idols and glorify them and fight us who only worship One God the same God who sent all the prophets and created the heavens and the
earth and everything between them in 6 days???
Lets read the Bible where Jesus (peace and blessings be upon him) himself says there has to be another counselor after him to teach men and he has to be a human prophet.
John 16:12-14 KJV
[12] I (Jesus) have yet MANY THINGS to say unto you, but ye cannot BEAR them
now.
[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE SHALL HEAR, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
[14] He shall GLORIFY ME: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
– What new things did anyone else teach after Jesus confirming the Counselor which Jesus never taught?
Such as Mohammed peace and blessings be upon him brought the entire Shariah which Jesus was mentioning that ‘ye cannot BEAR them now’.
Unfortunately Christians aren’t ready still to BEAR it.
– Jesus said ‘he shall not speak of himself’. Don’t u see it has to be a human prophet as not speaking by oneself is the exact human prophetic character that God mentions in the Old testament (Deut 18:18).
Jesus also informed that this Human prophet will ‘Glorify me’, meaning will Glorify Jesus. Isn’t it that Muslims are the only Non Christian faith that makes it an article of Faith to believe in Jesus (peace and blessings be upon him). We Muslims believe that Jesus was born miraculously without any male
intervention which many modern day Christians do not believe in.
Please listen to brother Yushua
Evens a former christian youth minister whom the Bible led him to Islam:Lets read the Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says there has to be another
counselor after him to teach men and he has to be a human prophet.
Lets read the Bible where Jesus (peace and blessings be upon him) himself says there has to be another counselor after him to teach men and he has to be a human prophet.
John 16:12-14 KJV
[12] I (Jesus) have yet MANY THINGS to say unto you, but ye cannot BEAR them
now.
[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE SHALL HEAR, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
[14] He shall GLORIFY ME: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
– What new things did anyone else teach after Jesus confirming the Counselor which Jesus never taught?
Such as Mohammed peace and blessings be upon him brought the entire Shariah which Jesus was mentioning that ‘ye cannot BEAR them now’.
Unfortunately Christians aren’t ready still to BEAR it.
– Jesus said ‘he shall not speak of himself’. Don’t u see it has to be a human prophet as not speaking by oneself is the exact human prophetic character that God mentions in the Old testament (Deut 18:18).
Jesus also informed that this Human prophet will ‘Glorify me’, meaning will Glorify Jesus. Isn’t it that Muslims are the only Non Christian faith that makes it an article of Faith to believe in Jesus (peace and blessings be upon him). We Muslims believe that Jesus was born miraculously without any male
intervention which many modern day Christians do not believe in.
Please listen to brother Yushua Evens a former christian youth minister whom the Bible led him to Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjKWxMHKoUI
peace be upon you and every one reading this post.
I was hoping to hear from you, seeing that u are one who is seeking knowledge. the bible has a great deal of knowledge in it that I would love to help u understand. last time I wrote to you I did a comparison between Jesus and Mohammad . I hope I gave u some insightful things to think about. if u really are seeking knowledge follow logic. not feeling or follow something that looking like what u have in your mind, follow logic and reason. and u will not go wrong.
by the way Yahweh and Yeshua gives us both!
I am en engineer, and all we do all day is logic, and this
is how I came to Islam, as it is the only thing in this life that made sense and logic, and I will not use your method of attack and insults, but if you do your research there are so many mistakes in the Bible so much inconsistency, that even in the preface this is acknowledged.
How about you open you hart, and follow the straight path, and stop arguing for the sake of arguing, and Submit to the One who created you, and believe in Prophet Mohammad peace and blessings be upon him as the final messenger sent to all mankind.
Peace
Actually, i would like to thank you for proving the depraved lying and evil nature that you as a muslim have, as a result of being muslim.
I understand that you delight in serving your master satan, but in fact you are one of the so many demonic muslims that only help prove the evil nature of islam.
May the One all Mighty Guide you.
Chris. . Muhammed’ message is the exact opposite of Jesus. This guy is an attention seeker – pity him but forget any possibility of a constructive argument because you won’t get it from him.
hi Reijo, I read his response to others on here, and it is very obvious that he has his head in the ground, when logic is put infront of him he does not respond, he skirts around it and goes on the attack. I truly feel sorry for him, his name saying seekingknowledge, but what he is doing is doing everything else other than seeking knowledge.
Muhammad teach his followers to lie to protect the faith, and I have to say this guys does that very well.
I pray that his eyes will be opened !
u said “Islam is an amazing faith, I am more than happy to answer
any question you have.”
yet a few days ago I did a comparison between the teaching of Jesus and how he taught his followers to show love and only love, and I compare that to the teaching of Muhammad who had poets kill for saying things about him, had slaves who were raped, stole from the caravans, kill his own people because they didn’t come out for morning prayers, by his own admission he was demon possessed in the caves, had his message compromised by the devil, took his own sons wife and many other very disgusting things.
and yet u didn’t respond to explain how Jesus and Muhammad message was totally opposite , but according to u they both follow allah .
so are u going to be honest and live up to your word and answer my question.
THERE WILL BE NO PEACE FOR YOU OR YOUR PERVERT MUTT
(COMMANDMENTS OF GOD ABROGATED)
Muhammad said, he is allowed to MURDER, RAPE, CHILD MOLEST, ENSLAVE & STEAL!
(3) “I have been favored above the prophets in six things:
I have been endowed with consummate succinctness of speech, made triumphant through dread, war booty has been made lawful for me, the whole earth has been made a purified place of worship for me, I have been sent to all created beings, and the succession of prophets has been completed in me.”
“For by the works of the law, NO flesh shall be justified in His GOD’S sight”
http://youtu.be/IYMKQKSV0bY
Please watch this video how the bible led a youth minester To embrace Islam the true faith from the one all mighty.
In sha Allah it will be an eye opener for all of us.
Peace
Demons like to mock, is it a coincidence that muslims enjoy mocking (with lies) so much?
After more than 10 years of dialogue with muslims, I dont think its coincidence… after all we know many muslims (that dont want the demons) have to go to christians to get the demons they got from being muslim, caste out in the name of Jesus Christ!
Christian readers will know that allah mirrors satan too much, in fact exactly, for it to be a coincidence either.
ANIMAL LOVING MUSLIMS:
PAKISTAN
In Southern Punjab, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Sindh and Balochistan, sex with animals is a common practice among rural youths and considered a rite of passage into adulthood.
In southern Punjab, much of NWFP, Sindh and Balochistan sodomy and bestiality are common among rural youths. In fact, he caught two boys trying to rape a goat in the vicinity of the mazar of Hazrat Sultan Bahu. The punishment meted out to them was 10 blows with a chhittar (shoe) each on their butts. They protested however that in many rural areas having sex with an animal was considered a rite of passage on the way to becoming full members of the male society!
Desegregation of the sexes and promiscuity
Ishtiaq Ahmed (associate professor of political science at Stockholm University),
Daily Times, June 27, 2006
DONKEY KILLED AFTER BEING RAPED
In June 2011, a male who was caught having sex with another man’s donkey was
fined Rs 50,000. This fine was not imposed for having sex with an animal, but
for committing adultery. The raped donkey was labelled a ‘kari’ (an adultress)
and eventually honor killed by its owner.
Incredible though it may sound, a donkey was declared ‘Kari’ and shot dead here in a remote area on Monday. The Jirga imposed 110,000 rupees fine on the
alleged ‘Karo’.
The reports said that in Village Ghahi Khan Jatoi, a villager Ghazi Khan alias
Malang shot dead his donkey on being ‘Kari’ with Sikandar Ali alias Deedo. He
attempted to kill Sikander too but the alleged Karo managed to escape and
surrendered himself to an influential person of the area.
Sources said the influential person summoned both the parties and imposed
110,000 rupees fine on the Karo. They said Sikander and his family were forced
to pay Rs 50,000 on the spot and the remaining amount in two installments.
The sources added that the alleged Karo pleaded innocence at the Jirga, but the
Jirga members paid no attention to it. Sikander’s family said he paid Rs 50,000
to save his life otherwise he would have been killed.
Donkey declared ‘Kari’ killed
The News International, July 19, 2011
Pakistan ranks number 1 for such varied search terms as “child sex,”
“rape sex,” “animal sex,” “camel sex,”
“donkey sex,” “dog sex,” and “horse sex”.
The Muslim country, which has banned content on at least 17 websites to block
offensive and blasphemous material, is the world’s leader in online searches for pornographic material
. . .Google ranks Pakistan No. 1 in the world in searches for pornographic terms,
outranking every other country in the world in searches per person for certain
sex-related content.
Pakistan is top dog in searches per-person for “horse sex” since
2004, “donkey sex” since 2007, “rape pictures” between 2004
and 2009, “rape sex” since 2004, “child sex” between 2004
and 2007 and since 2009, “animal sex” since 2004 and “dog
sex” since 2005, according to Google Trends and Google Insights, features
of Google that generate data based on popular search terms.
The country also is tops — or has been No. 1 — in searches for “sex,”
“camel sex,” “rape video,” “child sex video” and
some other searches that can’t be printed here.
No. 1 Nation in Sexy Web Searches? Call it Pornistan
Kelli Morgan, Fox News, July 13, 2010
OTHER COUNTRIES & BESTIALITY — RELATED SEARCHES
Pakistani Muslims are not alone in their search for porn.
Google, the world’s most popular Internet search engine, has found in a survey
that mostly Muslim states seek access to sex-related websites and Pakistan
tops the list. Google found that of the top 10 countries – searching for
sex-related sites – six were Muslim, with Pakistan on the top. The other Muslim
countries are Egypt at number 2, Iran at 4, Morocco at 5, Saudi Arabia at 7 and Turkey at 8. Non-Muslim states are Vietnam at 3, India at 6, Philippines at 9 and Poland at 10.
Pakistan most sex-starved
Khalid Hasan, Daily Times, May 17, 2006
Here are the Muslim countries and how they placed in the top five world ranking
of various bestiality-related internet search terms:[8]
Pig Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Donkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 3) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Dog Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Cat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Egypt (No. 3) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Horse Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Turkey (No. 3)
Cow Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Goat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1)
Animal Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Morocco (No. 2) Iran (No. 4) Egypt (No. 5)
Snake Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Malaysia (No. 3) Indonesia (No. 4) Egypt (No. 5)
Monkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Indonesia (No. 3) Malaysia (No. 4)
Bear Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 2)
Elephant Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 3) United Arab Emirates (No. 4)
Malaysia (No. 5)
Fox Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 1) Turkey (No. 4)
MIDDLE EAST
Bestiality is common among boys of tribal Arab cultures.
Miner and DeVos (1960) comment that amongst Arab tribal cultures,
“Bestiality with goats, sheep, or camels provides another outlet. These
practices are not approved but they are recognized as common among boys.”
Havelock-Ellis [note 52] states “The Arabs, according to Kocher, chiefly
practice bestiality with goats, sheep and mares. The Annamites, according to
Mondiere, commonly employ sows and (more especially the young women)
dogs.”
Historical And Cultural Perspectives On Zoophilia
Serving History
There is also a certain saying which remains popular among the Arabs:
The Arabs have never taken quite so condemnatory an attitude towards the
practice, and indeed a popular Arab saying had it that
“The pilgrimage to Mecca is not complete without copulating with the camel.”
I TOLD YOU MOHAMMEDANS LOVE ANIMALS!
THEY MIGHT NOT EAT PIG, BUT THEY SURE AS HELL WILL HAVE SEX WITH IT!
Good manners and good character:
Islam is a beautiful religion, full of wisdom and harmony. If this wonderful religion is followed properly then a typical Muslim would only be a great example to follow.
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr: “The Prophet never used bad language neither a ‘Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say ‘The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character.’ (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759)”
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr: “The Prophet never used bad language neither a “Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say “The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character.” (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759)”
Narrated Masruq: “Abdullah bin ‘Amr mentioned Allah’s Apostle saying that he was neither a Fahish nor a Mutafahish. Abdullah bin ‘Amr added, Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The best among you are those who have the best manners and character.’ (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab), Volume 8, Book 73, Number 56)”
Narrated Masruq: “We were sitting with ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr who was narrating to us (Hadith): He said, “Allah’s Apostle was neither a Fahish nor a Mutafahhish, and he used to say,’The best among you are the best in character (having good manners).”‘ (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab), Volume 8, Book 73, Number 61)”
Allah Almighty orders Muslims to deal kindly and justly with non-Muslims:
“Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)”
Narrated Jarir bin ‘Abdullah: “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Allah will not be merciful to those who are not merciful to mankind.’ (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, ONENESS, UNIQUENESS OF ALLAH (TAWHEED), Volume 9, Book 93, Number 473)”
The Muslim needs to always be polite, humble, patient, loving and well mannered when he/she deals with others, whether they were Muslims or non-Muslims. Allah Almighty certainly doesn’t love those who are offensive and rude to others.
Respect and honor your guests:
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said:
Narrated Abu Shuraih Al-Khuza’i: “My ears heard and my heart grasped (the statement which) the Prophet said, “The period for keeping one’s guest is three days (and don’t forget) his reward.” It was asked, “What is his reward?” He said, “In the first night and the day he should be given a high class quality of meals; and whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, should entertain his guest generously; and whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should talk what is good (sense) or keep quiet.” (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, To make the Heart Tender (Ar-Riqaq), Volume 8, Book 76, Number 483)”
Narrated Abu Huraira: “Allah’s Apostle said, “Anybody who believes in Allah and the Last Day should not harm his neighbor, and anybody who believes in Allah and the Last Dayshould entertain his guest generously and anybody who believes in Allah and the Last Day should talk what is good or keep quiet. (i.e. abstain from all kinds of evil and dirty talk). (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab), Volume 8, Book 73, Number 47)”
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr bin Al-‘As: “Once Allah’s Apostle came to me,” and then he narrated the whole narration, i.e. your guest has a right on you, and your wife has a right on you. I then asked about the fasting of David. The Prophet replied, “Half of the year,” (i.e. he used to fast on every alternate day). (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Fasting, Volume 3, Book 31, Number 195)”
one thing true: is islam had decieved many good people
Better late than never — the beauty of islam is that you can lie when cornered
Below is the truth about mohammedans (the proper term for muslims)
Many of you may not know the suras of the koran are not in chronological order (it starts with the longest chapter and finishes withn the shortest)
In Islam there is a thing called abrogation and if two chapters or verses contradict one another the later chapter/verse would replace the original and is deemed to be Alla’s final word/decision on the subject …(actually it is mohammads reaction when caught out telling lies) …so to understand the koran it needs to be put in chronological order— It is then we see that sura 9 is the last revealed but one (sura 114 which is irrelevant)
If in the koran any verses are thought to be peaceful ….sura 9 abrogates them and knocks them for a six
9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.
9:6 Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don’t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)
9:7-9 Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.
9:11 Treat converts to Islam well, but kill those who refuse to convert (see 9:5).
9:12-14 Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.
9:23 Don’t make friends with your disbelieving family members. Those who do so are wrong-doers.
9:29 Fight against Christians and Jews “until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”
9:33 The “Religion of Truth” (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions.
9:41 Fight for Allah with your wealth and whatever weapons are available to you.
9:42 Those who refuse to fight for Allah (claiming they are unable) are liars who have destroyed their souls.
9:73 Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway.
9:81-83 Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell.
9:85 Those who refuse to fight for Allah will be treated (along with their children) as unbelievers.
9:111 Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed. Allah will reward them for it.
9:123 Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you.
This is the last and final word on non muslims before Muhammed died
Muhsin Khan, the translator of Sahih al-Bukhari, says God revealed sura 9 “Ultimatum” in order to discard restraint and to command Muslims to fight against all the pagans as well as against the People of the Book if they do not embrace Islam or until they pay religious taxes. So, at first aggressive fighting was forbidden; it later became permissible (2:190) and subsequently obligatory (9:5). This “verse of the sword” abrogated, canceled, and replaced 124 verses that called for tolerance, compassion, and peace.
The Egyptian theologian Abu Suyuti said that everything in the Quran about forgiveness and peace is abrogated by verse 9:5, which orders Muslims to fight the unbelievers and to establish God’s kingdom on earth.
Dogs are loyal, pigs are smart. I’ve seen more compassion and forgivness from dogs than any Muslim. Muslims are evil, rotten, mean & nasty lowlife scum. I’ll take a dog or a pig any day over a Muslim.